Here is the post from Anderson Cooper Effects. A Pundit Blog For Anderson Cooper in response to my post re-exposing Anderson Cooper as a non-journalist and X CIA Choir Boy.
From: Anderson Cooper Effects ,
If you got out of bed on the wrong side, this article will cheer you up. It seems that this Joe Kelly just discovered Anderson Cooper, but his research didn't take him very wide to all the blogs dedicated to Anderson nor to all the news he attracts. What is "news" to him is ancient history for most of us. And he seems not to like the "news" to boot. If you'd like to set him straight (it is not possible that he may be gay -- or something is very wrong with my reality.) you can comment on his wonder piece at: "Stop Martial Law." And while you are at it, please ask him why the name of his blog is "Stop Martial Law."
Now what i will do is address his post item by item. First off is the name calling. Why would he assume and call me "gay"? Especialy since the poster has the name "Peter" on the Anderson Cooper pundit blog.
Really, Was there any indication that i might be gay? I think not. Actualy i am exactly the opposite. I am the father of 3 kids and married. Name calling is something people do when they have no other defense or are offended and know they are wrong. Just like the idiots at FOX news.
Next, is that i did not "just discover" Anderson Cooper, It is just that someone needs to use the same practises that the media uses.
they lie over and over until someone or even masses accept it as a truth. Well, I will use the same tatics against them, But with the truth instead of lies!
This area i will put considerable facts and video evidence to support this claim that the Media continously lies until you, the people accept it as truth, and you will soon see that you have boght lies from the media.
My first case in point is Jamie McIntire of CNN going all the way back to 9-11.
Below is the first report from the pentagon by him on that terrible day.
Here he claims NO EVIDENCE of a plane hitting the pentagon. But the Soon, he changes his story.
Now, Why did he lie? This is part of why i do not TRUST the Media, and when you have someone who is not trained in journalism, but does have experience with the CIA, it makes me nervous.
CNN has also been caught with Military Psyops in the news room, Yet this was squashed by the media, But it is not legal to have them using Propaganda on the American People.. So i guess they would not report their own wrongdoing.
Tony Snow has told so many lies that he probably can not distinguish reality from lie anymore.
It was recently claimed that Cheney ordered Fox and several other "Media" outlets to start the drumbeat of war with IRAN soon after laborday. And low and behold, they have been beating the drums as loud as they can to build support for another war based on lies, Just like Iraq.
Recently The president of IRAn was Attacked by the mass media for his speech, and they did not tell the truth again. Read his speech here. So, Again they lied!
Let's get to a major mess up by the media. In the Video Below the BBC Reports live on 9-11 that Building 7 collapses over 20 minuets before it fell, and the building is still standing behind the reporter in a live shot. And it is reported as if it had already happened!
Building 7 still standing, and being reported live as already collapsed. Go Figure.
“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”
Joseph Goebbels
Saturday, September 29, 2007
Friday, September 28, 2007
Little know Fact's About Anderson Cooper Of CNN. Facts that May Suprise You!
We have all wondered lately what the major media has going on and who their loyalty is pleged to. Well, As i was doing some research i ran across some interesting information about Anderson Cooper of Anderson Cooper 360 of CNN.
It is first important to let you know that he has a history with the CIA. and that he is allso an Social Elite. His mother is Gloria Vanderbilt. I know you have heard that name before.
Anderson Cooper has mixed and socializes with the likes of Ford Models for Ralph Lauren, Calvin Klein and Macy's as a young teen model.
What makes me nervous is that he has no formal journalistic education, but rather a CIA background and is with one of the major media outlets reporting on Government and wars. Most people who have backgrounds in Journalism have a hard time getting into a local news station or even a local paper. But someone with no background is working for and has worked for the major media from ABC to CNN and many other major media jobs.
He has also admited that he is somewhat desensitized to war and this is a comment he made about the Rwandan Genocide: "I would see a dozen bodies and think, you know, It's a dozen, it's not so bad".
This man, with and elite idealism, a CIA background and a cold nature towards humanity has no business reporting the news to the American people.
It is first important to let you know that he has a history with the CIA. and that he is allso an Social Elite. His mother is Gloria Vanderbilt. I know you have heard that name before.
Anderson Cooper has mixed and socializes with the likes of Ford Models for Ralph Lauren, Calvin Klein and Macy's as a young teen model.
What makes me nervous is that he has no formal journalistic education, but rather a CIA background and is with one of the major media outlets reporting on Government and wars. Most people who have backgrounds in Journalism have a hard time getting into a local news station or even a local paper. But someone with no background is working for and has worked for the major media from ABC to CNN and many other major media jobs.
He has also admited that he is somewhat desensitized to war and this is a comment he made about the Rwandan Genocide: "I would see a dozen bodies and think, you know, It's a dozen, it's not so bad".
This man, with and elite idealism, a CIA background and a cold nature towards humanity has no business reporting the news to the American people.
Thursday, September 27, 2007
They Took The Argis/ Blackwater Video Down, I have it Here!
The first one was removed by youtube because of terms of service, then it said removed by poster, now it just says "removed".
I now have it again for the people who have not seen it yet. Blackwater/Argis murdering for sport.
Now, the signs on the rear of the vechicles say stay back 50 meters, but the signs are small. And i hear gunfire when it is obvious that they are over 50 yards away(about 50 meters)!
Anyway, here is the video that was removed!
I now have it again for the people who have not seen it yet. Blackwater/Argis murdering for sport.
Now, the signs on the rear of the vechicles say stay back 50 meters, but the signs are small. And i hear gunfire when it is obvious that they are over 50 yards away(about 50 meters)!
Anyway, here is the video that was removed!
Monday, September 24, 2007
Transcipt of Iranian Leader! Nothing like the Mass Media Suggest! Judge for yourself!
SPEAKER: IRANIAN PRESIDENT MAHMOUD AHMADINEJAD
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AHMADINEJAD (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): In the name of God, the compassionate, the merciful...
TRANSLATOR: The president is reciting verses from the holy Koran in Arabic.
AHMADINEJAD (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): Oh, God, hasten the arrival of Imam al-Mahdi and grant him good health and victory and make us his followers and those to attest to his rightfulness.
Distinguished Dean, dear professors and students, ladies and gentlemen, at the outset I would like to extend my greetings to all of you. I am grateful to the almighty God for providing me with the opportunity to be in an academic environment, those seeking truth and striving for the promotion of science and knowledge.
At the outset I want to complain a bit from the person who read this political statement against me. In Iran tradition requires that when we demand a person to invite to be a speaker we actually respect our students and the professors by allowing them to make their own judgment and we don't think it's necessary before this speech is even given to come in with a series of claims...
(APPLAUSE)
... and to attempt in a so-called manner to provide vaccination of some sort to our students and our faculty.
I think the text read by the dear gentleman here, more than addressing me, was an insult to information and the knowledge of the audience here, present here. In a university environment we must allow people to speak their mind, to allow everyone to talk so that the truth is eventually revealed by all.
Certainly he took more than all the time I was allocated to speak, and that's fine with me. We'll just leave that to add up with the claims of respect for freedom and the freedom of speech that's given to us in this country.
Many parts of his speech, there were many insults and claims that were incorrect, regretfully.
AHMADINEJAD (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): Of course, I think that he was affected by the press, the media, and the political, sort of, mainstream line that you read here that goes against the very grain of the need for peace and stability in the world around us.
Nonetheless, I should not begin by being affected by this unfriendly treatment. I will tell you what I have to say, and then the questions he can raise and I'll be happy to provide answers. But as for one of the issues that he did raise, I most certainly would need to elaborate further so that we, for ourselves, can see how things fundamentally work.
It was my decision in this valuable forum and meeting to speak with you about the importance of knowledge, of information, of education. Academics and religious scholars are shining torches who shed light in order to remove darkness. And the ambiguities around us in guiding humanity out of ignorance and perplexity.
The key to the understanding of the realities around us rests in the hands of the researchers, those who seek to discover areas that are hidden, the unknown sciences, the windows of realities that they can open is done only through efforts of the scholars and the learned people in this world.
AHMADINEJAD (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): With every effort there is a window that is opened, and one reality is discovered. Whenever the high stature of science and wisdom is preserved and the dignity of scholars and researchers are respected, humans have taken great strides toward their material and spiritual promotion.
In contrast, whenever learned people and knowledge have been neglected, humans have become stranded in the darkness of ignorance and negligence.
If it were not for human instinct, which tends toward continual discovery of truth, humans would have always remained stranded in ignorance and no way would not have discovered how to improve the life that we are given.
The nature of man is, in fact, a gift granted by the Almighty to all. The Almighty led mankind into this world and granted him wisdom and knowledge as his prime gift enabling him to know his God.
In the story of Adam, a conversation occurs between the Almighty and his angels. The angels call human beings an ambitious and merciless creature and protested against his creation.
But the Almighty responded, quote, "I have knowledge of what you are ignorant of," unquote. Then the Almighty told Adam the truth. And on the order of the Almighty, Adam revealed it to the angels.
The angels could not understand the truth as revealed by the human being.
AHMADINEJAD (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): The Almighty said to them, quote, "Did not I say that I am aware of what is hidden in heaven and in the universe?" unquote.
In this way the angels prostrated themselves before Adam.
In the mission of all divine prophets, the first sermons were of the words of God, and those words -- piety, faith and wisdom -- have been spread to all mankind.
Regarding the holy prophet Moses, may peace be upon him, God says, quote, "And he was taught wisdom, the divine book, the Old Testament and the New Testament. He is the prophet appointed for the sake of the children of Israel, and I rightfully brought a sign from the Almighty, holy Koran (SPEAKING IN PERSIAN)," unquote.
The first words, which were revealed to the holy prophet of Islam, call the prophet to read, quote, "Read, read in the name of your God, who supersedes everything," unquote, the Almighty, quote again, "who taught the human being with the pen," unquote. Quote, "The Almighty taught human beings what they were ignorant of," unquote.
You see, in the first verses revealed to the holy prophet of Islam, words of reading, teaching and the pen are mentioned. These verses in fact introduced the Almighty as the teacher of human beings, the teacher who taught humans what they were ignorant of.
In another part of the Koran, on the mission of the holy prophet of Islam, it is mentioned that the Almighty appointed someone from amongst the common people as their prophet in order to, quote, "read for them the divine verses," unquote, and quote again, "and purify them from ideological and ethical contamination" unquote, and quote again, "to teach them the divine book and wisdom," unquote.
AHMADINEJAD (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): My dear friends, all the words and messages of the divine prophets from Abraham and Isaac and Jacob, to David and Solomon and Moses, to Jesus and Mohammad delivered humans from ignorance, negligence, superstitions, unethical behavior, and corrupted ways of thinking, with respect to knowledge, on the path to knowledge, light and rightful ethics.
In our culture, the word science has been defined as illumination. In fact, the science means brightness and the real science is a science which rescues the human being from ignorance, to his own benefit. In one of the widely accepted definitions of science, it is stated that it is the light which sheds to the hearts of those who have been selected by the almighty.
Therefore, according to this definition, science is a divine gift and the heart is where it resides. If we accept that science means illumination, then its scope supersedes the experimental sciences and it includes every hidden and disclosed reality.
One of the main harms inflicted against science is to limit it to experimental and physical sciences. This harm occurs even though it extends far beyond this scope. Realities of the world are not limited to physical realities and the materials, just a shadow of supreme reality. And physical creation is just one of the stories of the creation of the world.
Human being is just an example of the creation that is a combination of a material and the spirit. And another important point is the relationship of science and purity of spirit, life, behavior and ethics of the human being. In the teachings of the divine prophets, one reality shall always be attached to science; the reality of purity of spirit and good behavior. Knowledge and wisdom is pure and clear reality.
It is -- science is a light. It is a discovery of reality. And only a pure scholar and researcher, free from wrong ideologies, superstitions, selfishness and material trappings can discover -- discover the reality.
AHMADINEJAD: My dear friends and scholars, distinguished participants, science and wisdom can also be misused, a misuse caused by selfishness, corruption, material desires and material interests, as well as individual and group interests.
Material desires place humans against the realities of the world. Corrupted and dependent human beings resist acceptance of reality. And even if they do accept it, they do not obey it.
There are many scholars who are aware of the realities but do not accept them. Their selfishness does not allow them to accept those realities.
Do those who, in the course of human history, wage wars, not understand the reality that lives, properties, dignity, territories, and the rights of all human beings should be respected, or did they understand it but neither have faith in nor abide by it?
My dear friends, as long as the human heart is not free from hatred, envy, and selfishness, it does not abide by the truth, by the illumination of science and science itself.
Science is the light, and scientists must be pure and pious. If humanity achieves the highest level of physical and spiritual knowledge but its scholars and scientists are not pure, then this knowledge cannot serve the interests of humanity, and several events can ensue.
First, the wrongdoers reveal only a part of the reality, which is to their own benefit, and conceal the rest. As we have witnessed with respect to the scholars of the divine religions in the past, too, unfortunately, today, we see that certain researchers and scientists are still hiding the truth from the people.
Second, science, scientists, and scholars are misused for personal, group, or party interests. So, in today's world, bullying powers are misusing many scholars and scientists in different fields with the purpose of stripping nations of their wealth.
AHMADINEJAD (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): And they use all opportunities only for their own benefit.
For example, they deceive people by using scientific methods and tools. They, in fact, wish to justify their own wrongdoings, though. By creating nonexistent enemies, for example, and an insecure atmosphere, they try to control all in the name of combating insecurity and terrorism.
They even violate individual and social freedoms in their own nations under that pretext. They do not respect the privacy of their own people. They tap telephone calls and try to control their people. They create an insecure psychological atmosphere in order to justify their warmongering acts in different parts of the world.
As another example, by using precise scientific methods and planning, they begin their onslaught on the domestic cultures of nations, the cultures which are the result of thousands of years of interaction, creativity and artistic activities.
They try to eliminate these cultures in order to separate the people from their identity and cut their bonds with their own history and values. They prepare the ground for stripping people from their spiritual and material wealth by instilling in them feelings of intimidation, desire for imitation and (inaudible) submission to oppressive powers and disability.
Making nuclear, chemical and biological bombs and weapons of mass destruction is yet another result of the misuse of science and research by the big powers.
AHMADINEJAD (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): Without cooperation of certain scientists and scholars, we would not have witnessed production of different nuclear, chemical and biological weapons.
Are these weapons to protect global security?
What can a perpetual nuclear umbrella threat achieve for the sake of humanity?
If nuclear war wages between nuclear powers, what human catastrophe will take place?
Today we can see the nuclear effects in even new generations of Nagasaki and Hiroshima residents, which might be witnessed in even the next generations to come.
Presently, the effects of the depleted uranium used in weapons since the beginning of the war in Iraq can be examined and investigated accordingly.
These catastrophes take place only when scientists and scholars are misused by oppressors.
Another point of sorrow: Some big powers create a monopoly over science and prevent other nations in achieving scientific development as well.
This, too, is one of the surprises of our time. Some big powers do not want to see the progress of other societies and nations. They turn to thousands of reasons, make allegations, place economic sanctions to prevent other nations from developing and advancing, all resulting from their distance from human values and the teachings of the divine prophets.
Regretfully, they have not been trained to serve mankind.
AHMADINEJAD (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): Dear academics, dear faculty and scholars, students, I believe that the biggest God-given gift to man is science and knowledge. Man's search for knowledge and the truth through science is what it guarantees to do in getting close to God. But science has to combine with the purity of the spirit and of the purity of man's spirit so that scholars can unveil the truth and then use that truth for advancing humanity's cause.
These scholars would be not only people who would guide humanity, but also guide humanity towards a better future.
And it is necessary that big powers should not allow mankind to engage in monopolistic activities and to prevent other nations from achieving that science. Science is a divine gift by God to everyone, and therefore, it must remain pure.
God is aware of all reality. All researchers and scholars are loved by God. So I hope there will be a day where these scholars and scientists will rule the world and God himself will arrive with Moses and Christ and Mohammed to rule the world and to take us toward justice.
I'd like to thank you now but refer to two points made in the introduction given about me, and then I will be open for any questions.
Last year -- I would say two years ago -- I raised two questions. You know that my main job is a university instructor.
AHMADINEJAD (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): Right now, as president of Iran, I still continue teaching graduate and Ph.D.-level courses on a weekly basis. My students are working with me in scientific fields. I believe that I am an academic, myself. So I speak with you from an academic point of view, and I raised two questions.
But, instead of a response, I got a wave of insults and allegations against me. And regretfully, they came mostly from groups who claimed most to believe in the freedom of speech and the freedom of information. You know quite well that Palestine is an old wound, as old as 60 years. For 60 years, these people are displaced.
For 60 years, these people are being killed. For 60 years, on a daily basis, there's conflict and terror. For 60 years, innocent women and children are destroyed and killed by helicopters and airplanes that break the house over their heads. For 60 years, children and kindergartens, in schools, in high schools, are in prison being tortured. For 60 years, security in the Middle East has been endangered. For 60 years, the slogan of expansionism from the Nile to the Euphrates is being chanted by certain groups in that part of the world.
And as an academic, I asked two questions; the same two questions that I will ask here again. And you judge, for yourselves, whether the response to these questions should be the insults, the allegations, and all the words and the negative propaganda or should we really try and face these two questions and respond to them?
AHMADINEJAD (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): Like you, like any academic, I, too, will keep -- not yet become silent until I get the answer. So I'm awaiting logical answers instead of insults.
My first question was if -- given that the Holocaust is a present reality of our time, a history that occurred, why is there not sufficient research that can approach the topic from different perspectives?
Our friend referred to 1930 as the point of departure for this development. However, I believe the Holocaust from what we've read happened during World War II, after 1930, in the 1940s. So, you know, we have to really be able to trace the event.
My question was simple: There are researchers who want to approach the topic from a different perspective. Why are they put into prison? Right now, there are a number of European academics who have been sent to prison because they attempted to write about the Holocaust or research it from a different perspective, questioning certain aspects of it.
My question is: Why isn't it open to all forms of research?
I have been told that there's been enough research on the topic. And I ask, well, when it comes to topics such as freedom, topics such as democracy, concepts and norms such as God, religion, physics even, or chemistry, there's been a lot of research, but we still continue more research on those topics. We encourage it.
But, then, why don't we encourage more research on a historical event that has become the root, the cause of many heavy catastrophes in the region in this time and age?
AHMADINEJAD: Why shouldn't there be more research about the root causes? That was my first question.
And my second question, well, given this historical event, if it is a reality, we need to still question whether the Palestinian people should be paying for it or not. After all, it happened in Europe. The Palestinian people had no role to play in it. So why is it that the Palestinian people are paying the price of an event they had nothing to do with?
The Palestinian people didn't commit any crime. They had no role to play in World War II. They were living with the Jewish communities and the Christian communities in peace at the time. They didn't have any problems.
And today, too, Jews, Christians and Muslims live in brotherhood all over the world in many parts of the world. They don't have any serious problems.
But why is it that the Palestinians should pay a price, innocent Palestinians, for 5 million people to remain displaced or refugees abroad for 60 years. Is this not a crime? Is asking about these crimes a crime by itself?
Why should an academic myself face insults when asking questions like this? Is this what you call freedom and upholding the freedom of thought?
And as for the second topic, Iran's nuclear issue, I know there is time limits, but I need time. I mean, a lot of time was taken from me.
We are a country, we are a member of the International Atomic Energy Agency. For over 33 years we are a member state of the agency. The bylaw of the agency explicitly states that all member states have the right to the peaceful nuclear fuel technology. This is an explicit statement made in the bylaw, and the bylaw says that there is no pretext or excuse, even the inspections carried by the IAEA itself that can prevent member states' right to have that right.
Of course, the IAEA is responsible to carry out inspections. We are one of the countries that's carried out the most amount of level of cooperation with the IAEA. They have had hours and weeks and days of inspections in our country, and over and over again the agency's reports indicate that Iran's activities are peaceful, that they have not detected a deviation, and that Iran -- they have received positive cooperation from Iran.
But regretfully, two or three monopolistic powers, selfish powers want to force their word on the Iranian people and deny them their right.
AHMADINEJAD (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): They keep saying...
(CROSSTALK)
AHMADINEJAD (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): They tell us you don't let them -- they won't let them inspect. Why not? Of course we do. How come is it, anyway, that you have that right and we can't have it? We want to have the right to peaceful nuclear energy. They tell us, don't make it yourself, we'll give it to you.
Well, in the past, I tell you, we had contracts with the U.S. government, with the British government, the French government, the German government, and the Canadian government on nuclear development for peaceful purposes. But unilaterally, each and every one of them canceled their contracts with us, as a result of which the Iranian people had to pay a heavy cost in billions of dollars.
Why do we need the fuel from you? You've not even given us spare aircraft parts that we need for civilian aircraft for 28 years under the name of embargo and sanctions because we're against, for example, human rights or freedom? Under that pretext, you are deny us that technology? We want to have the right to self-determination toward our future. We want to be independent. Don't interfere in us.
If you don't give us spare parts for civilian aircraft, what is the expectation that you'd give us fuel for nuclear development for peaceful purposes?
For 30 years, we've faced these problems for over $5 billion to the Germans and then to the Russians, but we haven't gotten anything. And the words have not been completed.
It is our right. We want our right. And we don't want anything beyond the law, nothing less than international law.
We are a peaceful, loving nation. We love all nations.
(APPLAUSE)
MODERATOR: Mr. President, your statements here today and in the past have provoked many questions which I would like to pose to you on behalf of the students and faculty who have submitted them to me.
Let me begin with the question to which you just alluded...
AHMADINEJAD: Just one by one, one by one -- could you just...
MODERATOR: Yes.
(APPLAUSE)
MODERATOR: The first question is: Do you or your government seek the destruction of the state of Israel as a Jewish state?
AHMADINEJAD (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): We love all nations. We are friends with the Jewish people. There are many Jews in Iran, leaving peacefully, with security.
You must understand that in our constitution and our laws and in the parliamentary elections for every 150,000 people, we get one representative in the parliament. For the Jewish community, for one- fifth of this number, they still get one independent representative in the parliament.
So our proposal to the Palestinian plight is a humanitarian and democratic proposal. What we say is that to solve this 60-year problem, we must allow the Palestinian people to decide about its future for itself.
This is compatible with the spirit of the Charter of the United Nations and the fundamental principles enshrined in it. We must allow Jewish Palestinians, Muslim Palestinians and Christian Palestinians to determine their own fate themselves through a free referendum.
AHMADINEJAD (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): Whatever they choose as a nation, everybody should accept and respect. Nobody should interfere in the affairs of the Palestinian nation. Nobody should sow the seeds of discord. Nobody should spend tens of billions of dollars equipping and arming one group there.
We say allow the Palestinian nation to decide its own future, to have the right to self-determination for itself. This is what we are saying as the Iranian nation.
(APPLAUSE)
QUESTION: Mr. President, I think many members of our audience would like to hear a clearer answer to that question. That is...
(APPLAUSE)
The question is: Do you or your government seek the destruction of the state of Israel as a Jewish state? And I think you could answer that question with a single word, either yes or no.
(APPLAUSE)
AHMADINEJAD (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): You asked the question, and then you want the answer the way you want to hear it. Well, this isn't really a free flow of information.
(APPLAUSE)
I'm just telling you what my position is. I'm asking you: Is the Palestinian issue not an international issue of prominence or not? Please tell me, yes or no?
(APPLAUSE)
There's the plight of a people.
QUESTION: The answer to your question is yes.
AHMADINEJAD (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): Well, thank you for your cooperation. We recognize there's a problem there that's been going on for 60 years. Everybody provides a solution. And our solution is a free referendum.
Let this referendum happen, and then you'll see what the results are.
AHMADINEJAD: Let the people of Palestine freely choose what they want for their future. And then what you want in your mind to happen there will happen and will be realized.
QUESTION: (OFF-MIKE) second question, which was posed by President Bollinger earlier and comes from a number of other students: Why is your government providing aid to terrorists?
Will you stop doing so and permit international monitoring to certify that you have stopped?
AHMADINEJAD (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): Well, I want to pose a question here to you. If someone comes and explodes bombs around you, threatens your president, members of the administration, kills the members of the Senate or Congress, how would you treat them?
Would you reward them, or would you name them a terrorist group?
Well, it's clear. You would call them a terrorist.
My dear friends, the Iranian nation is a victim of terrorism. For --26 years ago, where I worked, close to where I worked, in a terrorist operation, the elected president of the Iranian nation and the elected prime minister of Iran lost their lives in a bomb explosion. They turned into ashes.
A month later, in another terrorist operation, 72 members of our parliament and highest-ranking officials, including four ministers and eight deputy ministers' bodies were shattered into pieces as a result of terrorist attacks.
AHMADINEJAD (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): Within six months, over 4,000 Iranians lost their lives, assassinated by terrorist groups. All this carried out by the hand of one single terrorist group. Regretfully, that same terrorist group now, today, in your country, is being -- operating under the support of the U.S. administration, working freely, distributing declarations freely, and their camps in Iraq are supported by the U.S. government.
They're secured by the U.S. government. Our nation has been harmed by terrorist activities. We were the first nation that objected to terrorism and the first to uphold the need to fight terrorism.
(APPLAUSE)
QUESTION: Mr. President, a number of questioners -- sorry -- a number of people have asked...
AHMADINEJAD (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): We need to address the root causes of terrorism and eradicate those root causes. We live in the Middle East. For us, it's quite clear which powers, sort of, incite terrorists, support them, fund them. We know that. Our nation, the Iranian nation, through history has always extended a hand of friendship to other nations. We're a cultured nation.
We don't need to resort to terrorism. We've been victims of terrorism, ourselves. And it's regrettable that people who argue they're fighting terrorism, instead of supporting the Iranian people and nation, instead of fighting the terrorists that are attacking them, they're supporting the terrorists and then turn the fingers to us.
AHMADINEJAD (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): This is most regrettable.
QUESTION: Mr. President, a further set of questions challenged your view of the Holocaust. Since the evidence that this occurred in Europe in the 1940s, as a result of the actions of the German Nazi government, since that -- those facts -- are well documented, why are you calling for additional research? There seems to be no purpose in doing so, other than to question whether the Holocaust actually occurred as a historical fact.
Can you explain why you believe more research is needed into the facts of what are -- what is -- what are incontrovertible?
AHMADINEJAD (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): Thank you very much for your question. I am an academic, and you are as well.
Can you argue that researching a phenomenon is finished, forever done? Can we close the books for good on a historical event?
There are different perspectives that come to light after every research is done. Why should we stop research at all? Why should we stop the progress of science and knowledge?
You shouldn't ask me why I'm asking questions. You should ask yourselves why you think that that's questionable? Why do you want to stop the progress of science and research?
Do you ever take what's known as absolute in physics? We had principles in mathematics that were granted to be absolute in mathematics for over 800 years. But new science has gotten rid of those absolutisms, come forward other different logics of looking at mathematics and sort of turned the way we look at it as a science altogether after 800 years.
So, we must allow researchers, scholars, they investigate into everything, every phenomenon -- God, universe, human beings, history and civilization. Why should we stop that?
I am not saying that it didn't happen at all. This is not that judgment that I am passing here.
I said, in my second question, granted this happened, what does it have to do with the Palestinian people?
AHMADINEJAD (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): This is a serious question. There are two dimensions. In the first question...
QUESTION: Let me just -- let me pursue this a bit further.
It is difficult to have a scientific discussion if there isn't at least some basis, some empirical basis, some agreement about what the facts are. So calling for research into the facts when the facts are so well established represents for many a challenging of the facts themselves and a denial that something terrible occurred in Europe in those years.
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Let me move on to...
AHMADINEJAD (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): Allow me. After all, you are free to interpret what you want from what I say. But what I am saying I'm saying with full clarity.
In the first question I'm trying to actually uphold the rights of European scholars. In the field of science and research I'm asking, there is nothing known as absolute. There is nothing sufficiently done. Not in physics for certain. There has been more research on physics than it has on the Holocaust, but we still continue to do research on physics. There is nothing wrong with doing it.
This is what man wants. They want to approach a topic from different points of view. Scientists want to do that. Especially an issue that has become the foundation of so many other political developments that have unfolded in the Middle East in the past 60 years.
Why do we stop it altogether? You have to have a justified reason for it. The fact that it was researched sufficiently in the past is not a sufficient justification in my mind.
QUESTION: Mr. President, another student asks -- Iranian women are now denied basic human rights and your government has imposed draconian punishments, including execution on Iranian citizens who are homosexuals. Why are you doing those things?
AHMADINEJAD (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): Freedoms in Iran are genuine, true freedoms. Iranian people are free. Women in Iran enjoy the highest levels of freedom.
We have two deputy -- two vice presidents that are female, at the highest levels of specialty, specialized fields. In our parliament and our government and our universities, they're present. In our biotechnological fields, our technological fields, there are hundreds of women scientists that are active -- in the political realm as well.
It's not -- it's wrong for some governments, when they disagree with another government, to, sort of, try to spread lies that distort the full truth.
Our nation is free. It has the highest level of participation in elections, in Iran. Eighty percent, ninety percent of the people turn out for votes during the elections, half of which, over half of which are women. So how can we say that women are not free? Is that the entire truth?
But as for the executions, I'd like to raise two questions. If someone comes and establishes a network for illicit drug trafficking that affects the youth in Iran, Turkey, Europe, the United States, by introducing these illicit drugs and destroys them, would you ever reward them?
People who lead the lives -- cause the deterioration of the lives of hundreds of millions of youth around the world, including in Iran, can we have any sympathy to them? Don't you have capital punishment in the United States? You do, too.
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AHMADINEJAD (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): In Iran, too, there's capital punishment for illicit drug traffickers, for people who violated the rights of people. If somebody takes up a gun, goes into a house, kills a group of people there, and then tries to take ransom, how would you confront them in Iran -- or in the United States? Would you reward them? Can a physician allow microbes symbolically speaking to spread across a nation?
We have laws. People who violate the public rights of the people by using guns, killing people, creating insecurity, sells drugs, distribute drugs at a high level are sentenced to execution in Iran.
And some of these punishments, very few, are carried in the public eye, before the public eye. It's a law, based on democratic principles. You use injections and microbes to kill these people, and they, they're executed or they're hung. But the end result is killing.
QUESTION: Mr. President, the question isn't about criminal and drug smugglers. The question was about sexual preference and women.
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AHMADINEJAD (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): In Iran, we don't have homosexuals, like in your country.
(LAUGHTER)
We don't have that in our country.
(AUDIENCE BOOING)
AHMADINEJAD (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): In Iran, we do not have this phenomenon. I don't know who's told you that we have it.
(LAUGHTER)
But, as for women, maybe you think that being a woman is a crime. It's not a crime to be a woman.
AHMADINEJAD (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): Women are the best creatures created by God. They represent the kindness, the beauty that God instills in them. Women are respected in Iran. In Iran, every family who is given a girl -- is given -- in every Iranian family who has a girl, they are 10 times happier than having a son. Women are respected more than men are.
They are exempt from many responsibilities. Many of the legal responsibilities rest on the shoulders of men in our society because of the respect, culturally given, to women, to the future mothers. In Iranian culture, men and sons and girls constantly kiss the hands of their mothers as a sign of respect, respect for women. And we are proud of this culture.
QUESTION: Mr. President, I have two questions which I'll put together.
One is, what did you hope to accomplish by speaking at Columbia today? And the second is, what would you have said if you were permitted to visit the site of the September 11th tragedy?
AHMADINEJAD (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): Well, here, I'm your guest. I've been invited by Columbia, an official invitation given for me to come here. But I do want to say something here.
In Iran, when you invite a guest, you respect them. This is our tradition, required by our culture. And I know that American people have that culture, as well. Last year, I wanted to go to the site of the September 11th tragedy to show respect to the victims of the tragedy, to show my sympathy with their families.
But our plans got overextended. We were involved in negotiations and meetings until midnight. And they said it would be very difficult to go visit the site at that late hour of the night. So, I told my friends then that they need to plan this for the following year so that I can go and visit the site and to show my respects.
Regretfully, some groups had very strong reactions, very bad reactions. It's bad for someone to prevent someone to show sympathy to the families of the victims of the September 11 event -- tragic event. This is a respect from my side. Somebody told me this is an insult. I said, "What are you saying? This is my way of showing my respect. Why would you think that?"
Thinking like that, how do you expect to manage the world and world affairs?
AHMADINEJAD (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): Don't you think that a lot of problems in the world come from the way you look at issues because of this kind of way of thinking, because of this sort of pessimistic approach toward a lot of people, because of a certain level of selfishness, self-absorption that needs to be put aside so that we can show respect to everyone, to allow an environment for friendship to grow, to allow all nations to talk with one another and move toward peace?
What was the second question?
I wanted to speak with the press. The September 11th tragic event was a huge event. It led to a lot of many other events afterwards. After 9/11 Afghanistan was occupied, and then Iraq was occupied. And for six years in our region there is insecurity, terror and fear.
If the root causes of 9/11 are examined properly -- why it was happened, what caused it, what were the conditions that led to it, who truly was involved, who was really involved -- and put it all together to understand how to prevent the crisis in Iraq, fix the problem in Afghanistan and Iraq combined.
QUESTION: Mr. President, a number of questions have asked about your nuclear program. Why is your government seeking to acquire enriched uranium suitable for nuclear weapons? Will you stop doing so?
AHMADINEJAD (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): Our nuclear program, first and foremost, operates within the framework of law.
And, second, under the inspections of the IAEA.
And, thirdly, they are completely peaceful.
The technology we have is for enrichment below the level of 5 percent level.
AHMADINEJAD: And any level below 5 percent is solely for providing fuel to power plants. Repeated reports by the IAEA explicitly say that there is no indication that Iran has deviated from the peaceful path of its nuclear program.
We are all well aware that Iran's nuclear issue is a political issue. It's not a legal issue. The international atomic energy organization -- agency has verified that our activities are for peaceful purposes.
But there are two or three powers that think that they have the right to monopolize all science and knowledge. And they expect the Iranian people, the Iranian nation, to turn to others to get fuel, to get science, to get knowledge that's indigenous to itself, to humble itself. And then they would, of course, refrain from giving it to us, too.
So we're quite clear what we need.
If you have created the fifth generation of atomic bombs and are testing them already, what position are you in to question the peaceful purposes of other people who want nuclear power?
We do not believe in nuclear weapons, period. It goes against the whole grain of humanity.
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So let me just joke -- try to tell a joke here. I think the politicians who are after atomic bombs or are testing them, making them, politically, they are backward, retarded.
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QUESTION: Mr. President, a final question. I know your time is short and that you need to move on. Is Iran prepared to open broad discussions with the government of the United States?
What would Iran hope to achieve in such discussions?
How do you see, in the future, a resolution of the points of conflict between the government of the United States and the government of Iran?
AHMADINEJAD (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): From the start, we announced that we are ready to negotiate with all countries.
AHMADINEJAD (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): Since 28 years ago, when our revolution succeeded and we established, we took freedom and democracy that was held at bay by a pro-Western dictatorship. We announced our readiness that besides two countries, we are ready to have friendly relations and talks with all countries of the world.
One of those two was the apartheid regime of South Africa, which has been eliminated. And the second was the Zionist regime. For everybody else around the world, we announced that we want to have friendly, brotherly ties. The Iranian nation is a cultured nation. It is a civilized nation. It seeks -- it wants talks and negotiations. It's for it.
We believe that in negotiations and talks, everything can be resolved very easily. We don't need threats. We don't need to point bombs or guns. We don't need to get into conflicts if we talk. We have a clear logic about that.
We question the way the world is being run and managed today. We believe that it will not lead to viable peace and security for the world, the way it's run today. We have solutions based on humane values and for relations among states. With the U.S. government, too, we will negotiate -- we don't have any issues about that -- under fair, just circumstances with mutual respect on both sides.
You saw that in order to help the security of Iraq, we had three rounds of talks with the United States, and last year, before coming to New York, I announced that I am ready in the United Nations to engage in a debate with Mr. Bush, the president of the United States, about critical international issues.
AHMADINEJAD (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): So that shows that we want to talk. Having a debate before the all the audience, so the truth is revealed, so that misunderstandings and misperceptions are removed, so that we can find a clear path for brotherly and friendly relations.
I think that if the U.S. administration, if the U.S. government puts aside some of its old behaviors, it can actually be a good friend for the Iranian people, for the Iranian nation.
For 28 years, they've consistently threatened us, insulted us, prevented our scientific development, every day, under one pretext or another.
You all know Saddam, the dictator, was supported by the government of the United States and some European countries in attacking Iran. And he carried out an eight-year war, a criminal war. Over 200,000 Iranians lost their lives. Over 600,000 Iranians were hurt as a result of the war.
He used chemical weapons. Thousands of Iranians were victims of chemical weapons that he used against us.
Today, Mr. Noble Vinn (ph), who is a reporter, an official reporter, international reporter, who was covering U.N. reports in the U.N. for many years, he is one of the victims of the chemical weapons used by Iraq against us.
And since then, we've been under different propaganda, sort of embargoes, economic sanctions, political sanctions. Why? Because we got rid of a dictator? Because we wanted the freedom and democracy that we got for ourselves? That, we can't understand.
We think that if the U.S. government recognizes the rights of the Iranian people, respects all nations and extends a hand of friendship with all Iranians, they, too, will see that Iranians will be one of its best friends.
AHMADINEJAD (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): Would you allow me to thank the audience a moment?
Well, there are many things that I would have liked to cover, but I don't want to take your time any further. I was asked: Would I allow the faculty at Columbia and students here to come to Iran? From this platform, I invite Columbia faculty members and students to come and visit Iran, to speak with our university students. You're officially invited.
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University faculty and students that the university decides, or the student associations choose and select are welcome to come. You're welcome to visit any university that you choose inside Iran. We'll provide you with the list of the universities. There are over 400 universities in our country. And you can choose whichever you want to go and visit. We'll give you the platform. We'll respect you 100 percent. We will have our students sit there and listen to you, speak with you, hear what you have to say.
Right now in our universities on a daily basis there are hundreds of meetings like this. They hear, they talk, they ask questions. They welcome it.
In the end I'd like to thank Columbia University. I had heard that many politicians in the United States are trained in Columbia University. And there are many people here who believe in the freedom of speech, in clear, frank conversations.
I do like to extend my gratitude to the managers here in the United States -- at Columbia University, I apologize -- the people who so well organized this meeting today.
AHMADINEJAD (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): I'd like to extend my deepest gratitude to the faculty members and the students here. I ask Almighty God to assist all of us to move hand in hand to establish peace and future filled with friendship and justice and brotherhood.
Best of luck to all of you.
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MODERATOR: I'm sorry that President Ahmadinejad's schedule makes it necessary for him to leave before he's been able to answer many of the questions that we have, or even answer some of the ones that we posed to him.
(LAUGHTER)
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But I think we can all be pleased that his appearance here demonstrates Columbia's deep commitment to free expression and debate. I want to thank you all for coming to participate.
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Thank you.
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AHMADINEJAD (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): In the name of God, the compassionate, the merciful...
TRANSLATOR: The president is reciting verses from the holy Koran in Arabic.
AHMADINEJAD (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): Oh, God, hasten the arrival of Imam al-Mahdi and grant him good health and victory and make us his followers and those to attest to his rightfulness.
Distinguished Dean, dear professors and students, ladies and gentlemen, at the outset I would like to extend my greetings to all of you. I am grateful to the almighty God for providing me with the opportunity to be in an academic environment, those seeking truth and striving for the promotion of science and knowledge.
At the outset I want to complain a bit from the person who read this political statement against me. In Iran tradition requires that when we demand a person to invite to be a speaker we actually respect our students and the professors by allowing them to make their own judgment and we don't think it's necessary before this speech is even given to come in with a series of claims...
(APPLAUSE)
... and to attempt in a so-called manner to provide vaccination of some sort to our students and our faculty.
I think the text read by the dear gentleman here, more than addressing me, was an insult to information and the knowledge of the audience here, present here. In a university environment we must allow people to speak their mind, to allow everyone to talk so that the truth is eventually revealed by all.
Certainly he took more than all the time I was allocated to speak, and that's fine with me. We'll just leave that to add up with the claims of respect for freedom and the freedom of speech that's given to us in this country.
Many parts of his speech, there were many insults and claims that were incorrect, regretfully.
AHMADINEJAD (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): Of course, I think that he was affected by the press, the media, and the political, sort of, mainstream line that you read here that goes against the very grain of the need for peace and stability in the world around us.
Nonetheless, I should not begin by being affected by this unfriendly treatment. I will tell you what I have to say, and then the questions he can raise and I'll be happy to provide answers. But as for one of the issues that he did raise, I most certainly would need to elaborate further so that we, for ourselves, can see how things fundamentally work.
It was my decision in this valuable forum and meeting to speak with you about the importance of knowledge, of information, of education. Academics and religious scholars are shining torches who shed light in order to remove darkness. And the ambiguities around us in guiding humanity out of ignorance and perplexity.
The key to the understanding of the realities around us rests in the hands of the researchers, those who seek to discover areas that are hidden, the unknown sciences, the windows of realities that they can open is done only through efforts of the scholars and the learned people in this world.
AHMADINEJAD (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): With every effort there is a window that is opened, and one reality is discovered. Whenever the high stature of science and wisdom is preserved and the dignity of scholars and researchers are respected, humans have taken great strides toward their material and spiritual promotion.
In contrast, whenever learned people and knowledge have been neglected, humans have become stranded in the darkness of ignorance and negligence.
If it were not for human instinct, which tends toward continual discovery of truth, humans would have always remained stranded in ignorance and no way would not have discovered how to improve the life that we are given.
The nature of man is, in fact, a gift granted by the Almighty to all. The Almighty led mankind into this world and granted him wisdom and knowledge as his prime gift enabling him to know his God.
In the story of Adam, a conversation occurs between the Almighty and his angels. The angels call human beings an ambitious and merciless creature and protested against his creation.
But the Almighty responded, quote, "I have knowledge of what you are ignorant of," unquote. Then the Almighty told Adam the truth. And on the order of the Almighty, Adam revealed it to the angels.
The angels could not understand the truth as revealed by the human being.
AHMADINEJAD (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): The Almighty said to them, quote, "Did not I say that I am aware of what is hidden in heaven and in the universe?" unquote.
In this way the angels prostrated themselves before Adam.
In the mission of all divine prophets, the first sermons were of the words of God, and those words -- piety, faith and wisdom -- have been spread to all mankind.
Regarding the holy prophet Moses, may peace be upon him, God says, quote, "And he was taught wisdom, the divine book, the Old Testament and the New Testament. He is the prophet appointed for the sake of the children of Israel, and I rightfully brought a sign from the Almighty, holy Koran (SPEAKING IN PERSIAN)," unquote.
The first words, which were revealed to the holy prophet of Islam, call the prophet to read, quote, "Read, read in the name of your God, who supersedes everything," unquote, the Almighty, quote again, "who taught the human being with the pen," unquote. Quote, "The Almighty taught human beings what they were ignorant of," unquote.
You see, in the first verses revealed to the holy prophet of Islam, words of reading, teaching and the pen are mentioned. These verses in fact introduced the Almighty as the teacher of human beings, the teacher who taught humans what they were ignorant of.
In another part of the Koran, on the mission of the holy prophet of Islam, it is mentioned that the Almighty appointed someone from amongst the common people as their prophet in order to, quote, "read for them the divine verses," unquote, and quote again, "and purify them from ideological and ethical contamination" unquote, and quote again, "to teach them the divine book and wisdom," unquote.
AHMADINEJAD (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): My dear friends, all the words and messages of the divine prophets from Abraham and Isaac and Jacob, to David and Solomon and Moses, to Jesus and Mohammad delivered humans from ignorance, negligence, superstitions, unethical behavior, and corrupted ways of thinking, with respect to knowledge, on the path to knowledge, light and rightful ethics.
In our culture, the word science has been defined as illumination. In fact, the science means brightness and the real science is a science which rescues the human being from ignorance, to his own benefit. In one of the widely accepted definitions of science, it is stated that it is the light which sheds to the hearts of those who have been selected by the almighty.
Therefore, according to this definition, science is a divine gift and the heart is where it resides. If we accept that science means illumination, then its scope supersedes the experimental sciences and it includes every hidden and disclosed reality.
One of the main harms inflicted against science is to limit it to experimental and physical sciences. This harm occurs even though it extends far beyond this scope. Realities of the world are not limited to physical realities and the materials, just a shadow of supreme reality. And physical creation is just one of the stories of the creation of the world.
Human being is just an example of the creation that is a combination of a material and the spirit. And another important point is the relationship of science and purity of spirit, life, behavior and ethics of the human being. In the teachings of the divine prophets, one reality shall always be attached to science; the reality of purity of spirit and good behavior. Knowledge and wisdom is pure and clear reality.
It is -- science is a light. It is a discovery of reality. And only a pure scholar and researcher, free from wrong ideologies, superstitions, selfishness and material trappings can discover -- discover the reality.
AHMADINEJAD: My dear friends and scholars, distinguished participants, science and wisdom can also be misused, a misuse caused by selfishness, corruption, material desires and material interests, as well as individual and group interests.
Material desires place humans against the realities of the world. Corrupted and dependent human beings resist acceptance of reality. And even if they do accept it, they do not obey it.
There are many scholars who are aware of the realities but do not accept them. Their selfishness does not allow them to accept those realities.
Do those who, in the course of human history, wage wars, not understand the reality that lives, properties, dignity, territories, and the rights of all human beings should be respected, or did they understand it but neither have faith in nor abide by it?
My dear friends, as long as the human heart is not free from hatred, envy, and selfishness, it does not abide by the truth, by the illumination of science and science itself.
Science is the light, and scientists must be pure and pious. If humanity achieves the highest level of physical and spiritual knowledge but its scholars and scientists are not pure, then this knowledge cannot serve the interests of humanity, and several events can ensue.
First, the wrongdoers reveal only a part of the reality, which is to their own benefit, and conceal the rest. As we have witnessed with respect to the scholars of the divine religions in the past, too, unfortunately, today, we see that certain researchers and scientists are still hiding the truth from the people.
Second, science, scientists, and scholars are misused for personal, group, or party interests. So, in today's world, bullying powers are misusing many scholars and scientists in different fields with the purpose of stripping nations of their wealth.
AHMADINEJAD (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): And they use all opportunities only for their own benefit.
For example, they deceive people by using scientific methods and tools. They, in fact, wish to justify their own wrongdoings, though. By creating nonexistent enemies, for example, and an insecure atmosphere, they try to control all in the name of combating insecurity and terrorism.
They even violate individual and social freedoms in their own nations under that pretext. They do not respect the privacy of their own people. They tap telephone calls and try to control their people. They create an insecure psychological atmosphere in order to justify their warmongering acts in different parts of the world.
As another example, by using precise scientific methods and planning, they begin their onslaught on the domestic cultures of nations, the cultures which are the result of thousands of years of interaction, creativity and artistic activities.
They try to eliminate these cultures in order to separate the people from their identity and cut their bonds with their own history and values. They prepare the ground for stripping people from their spiritual and material wealth by instilling in them feelings of intimidation, desire for imitation and (inaudible) submission to oppressive powers and disability.
Making nuclear, chemical and biological bombs and weapons of mass destruction is yet another result of the misuse of science and research by the big powers.
AHMADINEJAD (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): Without cooperation of certain scientists and scholars, we would not have witnessed production of different nuclear, chemical and biological weapons.
Are these weapons to protect global security?
What can a perpetual nuclear umbrella threat achieve for the sake of humanity?
If nuclear war wages between nuclear powers, what human catastrophe will take place?
Today we can see the nuclear effects in even new generations of Nagasaki and Hiroshima residents, which might be witnessed in even the next generations to come.
Presently, the effects of the depleted uranium used in weapons since the beginning of the war in Iraq can be examined and investigated accordingly.
These catastrophes take place only when scientists and scholars are misused by oppressors.
Another point of sorrow: Some big powers create a monopoly over science and prevent other nations in achieving scientific development as well.
This, too, is one of the surprises of our time. Some big powers do not want to see the progress of other societies and nations. They turn to thousands of reasons, make allegations, place economic sanctions to prevent other nations from developing and advancing, all resulting from their distance from human values and the teachings of the divine prophets.
Regretfully, they have not been trained to serve mankind.
AHMADINEJAD (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): Dear academics, dear faculty and scholars, students, I believe that the biggest God-given gift to man is science and knowledge. Man's search for knowledge and the truth through science is what it guarantees to do in getting close to God. But science has to combine with the purity of the spirit and of the purity of man's spirit so that scholars can unveil the truth and then use that truth for advancing humanity's cause.
These scholars would be not only people who would guide humanity, but also guide humanity towards a better future.
And it is necessary that big powers should not allow mankind to engage in monopolistic activities and to prevent other nations from achieving that science. Science is a divine gift by God to everyone, and therefore, it must remain pure.
God is aware of all reality. All researchers and scholars are loved by God. So I hope there will be a day where these scholars and scientists will rule the world and God himself will arrive with Moses and Christ and Mohammed to rule the world and to take us toward justice.
I'd like to thank you now but refer to two points made in the introduction given about me, and then I will be open for any questions.
Last year -- I would say two years ago -- I raised two questions. You know that my main job is a university instructor.
AHMADINEJAD (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): Right now, as president of Iran, I still continue teaching graduate and Ph.D.-level courses on a weekly basis. My students are working with me in scientific fields. I believe that I am an academic, myself. So I speak with you from an academic point of view, and I raised two questions.
But, instead of a response, I got a wave of insults and allegations against me. And regretfully, they came mostly from groups who claimed most to believe in the freedom of speech and the freedom of information. You know quite well that Palestine is an old wound, as old as 60 years. For 60 years, these people are displaced.
For 60 years, these people are being killed. For 60 years, on a daily basis, there's conflict and terror. For 60 years, innocent women and children are destroyed and killed by helicopters and airplanes that break the house over their heads. For 60 years, children and kindergartens, in schools, in high schools, are in prison being tortured. For 60 years, security in the Middle East has been endangered. For 60 years, the slogan of expansionism from the Nile to the Euphrates is being chanted by certain groups in that part of the world.
And as an academic, I asked two questions; the same two questions that I will ask here again. And you judge, for yourselves, whether the response to these questions should be the insults, the allegations, and all the words and the negative propaganda or should we really try and face these two questions and respond to them?
AHMADINEJAD (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): Like you, like any academic, I, too, will keep -- not yet become silent until I get the answer. So I'm awaiting logical answers instead of insults.
My first question was if -- given that the Holocaust is a present reality of our time, a history that occurred, why is there not sufficient research that can approach the topic from different perspectives?
Our friend referred to 1930 as the point of departure for this development. However, I believe the Holocaust from what we've read happened during World War II, after 1930, in the 1940s. So, you know, we have to really be able to trace the event.
My question was simple: There are researchers who want to approach the topic from a different perspective. Why are they put into prison? Right now, there are a number of European academics who have been sent to prison because they attempted to write about the Holocaust or research it from a different perspective, questioning certain aspects of it.
My question is: Why isn't it open to all forms of research?
I have been told that there's been enough research on the topic. And I ask, well, when it comes to topics such as freedom, topics such as democracy, concepts and norms such as God, religion, physics even, or chemistry, there's been a lot of research, but we still continue more research on those topics. We encourage it.
But, then, why don't we encourage more research on a historical event that has become the root, the cause of many heavy catastrophes in the region in this time and age?
AHMADINEJAD: Why shouldn't there be more research about the root causes? That was my first question.
And my second question, well, given this historical event, if it is a reality, we need to still question whether the Palestinian people should be paying for it or not. After all, it happened in Europe. The Palestinian people had no role to play in it. So why is it that the Palestinian people are paying the price of an event they had nothing to do with?
The Palestinian people didn't commit any crime. They had no role to play in World War II. They were living with the Jewish communities and the Christian communities in peace at the time. They didn't have any problems.
And today, too, Jews, Christians and Muslims live in brotherhood all over the world in many parts of the world. They don't have any serious problems.
But why is it that the Palestinians should pay a price, innocent Palestinians, for 5 million people to remain displaced or refugees abroad for 60 years. Is this not a crime? Is asking about these crimes a crime by itself?
Why should an academic myself face insults when asking questions like this? Is this what you call freedom and upholding the freedom of thought?
And as for the second topic, Iran's nuclear issue, I know there is time limits, but I need time. I mean, a lot of time was taken from me.
We are a country, we are a member of the International Atomic Energy Agency. For over 33 years we are a member state of the agency. The bylaw of the agency explicitly states that all member states have the right to the peaceful nuclear fuel technology. This is an explicit statement made in the bylaw, and the bylaw says that there is no pretext or excuse, even the inspections carried by the IAEA itself that can prevent member states' right to have that right.
Of course, the IAEA is responsible to carry out inspections. We are one of the countries that's carried out the most amount of level of cooperation with the IAEA. They have had hours and weeks and days of inspections in our country, and over and over again the agency's reports indicate that Iran's activities are peaceful, that they have not detected a deviation, and that Iran -- they have received positive cooperation from Iran.
But regretfully, two or three monopolistic powers, selfish powers want to force their word on the Iranian people and deny them their right.
AHMADINEJAD (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): They keep saying...
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AHMADINEJAD (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): They tell us you don't let them -- they won't let them inspect. Why not? Of course we do. How come is it, anyway, that you have that right and we can't have it? We want to have the right to peaceful nuclear energy. They tell us, don't make it yourself, we'll give it to you.
Well, in the past, I tell you, we had contracts with the U.S. government, with the British government, the French government, the German government, and the Canadian government on nuclear development for peaceful purposes. But unilaterally, each and every one of them canceled their contracts with us, as a result of which the Iranian people had to pay a heavy cost in billions of dollars.
Why do we need the fuel from you? You've not even given us spare aircraft parts that we need for civilian aircraft for 28 years under the name of embargo and sanctions because we're against, for example, human rights or freedom? Under that pretext, you are deny us that technology? We want to have the right to self-determination toward our future. We want to be independent. Don't interfere in us.
If you don't give us spare parts for civilian aircraft, what is the expectation that you'd give us fuel for nuclear development for peaceful purposes?
For 30 years, we've faced these problems for over $5 billion to the Germans and then to the Russians, but we haven't gotten anything. And the words have not been completed.
It is our right. We want our right. And we don't want anything beyond the law, nothing less than international law.
We are a peaceful, loving nation. We love all nations.
(APPLAUSE)
MODERATOR: Mr. President, your statements here today and in the past have provoked many questions which I would like to pose to you on behalf of the students and faculty who have submitted them to me.
Let me begin with the question to which you just alluded...
AHMADINEJAD: Just one by one, one by one -- could you just...
MODERATOR: Yes.
(APPLAUSE)
MODERATOR: The first question is: Do you or your government seek the destruction of the state of Israel as a Jewish state?
AHMADINEJAD (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): We love all nations. We are friends with the Jewish people. There are many Jews in Iran, leaving peacefully, with security.
You must understand that in our constitution and our laws and in the parliamentary elections for every 150,000 people, we get one representative in the parliament. For the Jewish community, for one- fifth of this number, they still get one independent representative in the parliament.
So our proposal to the Palestinian plight is a humanitarian and democratic proposal. What we say is that to solve this 60-year problem, we must allow the Palestinian people to decide about its future for itself.
This is compatible with the spirit of the Charter of the United Nations and the fundamental principles enshrined in it. We must allow Jewish Palestinians, Muslim Palestinians and Christian Palestinians to determine their own fate themselves through a free referendum.
AHMADINEJAD (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): Whatever they choose as a nation, everybody should accept and respect. Nobody should interfere in the affairs of the Palestinian nation. Nobody should sow the seeds of discord. Nobody should spend tens of billions of dollars equipping and arming one group there.
We say allow the Palestinian nation to decide its own future, to have the right to self-determination for itself. This is what we are saying as the Iranian nation.
(APPLAUSE)
QUESTION: Mr. President, I think many members of our audience would like to hear a clearer answer to that question. That is...
(APPLAUSE)
The question is: Do you or your government seek the destruction of the state of Israel as a Jewish state? And I think you could answer that question with a single word, either yes or no.
(APPLAUSE)
AHMADINEJAD (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): You asked the question, and then you want the answer the way you want to hear it. Well, this isn't really a free flow of information.
(APPLAUSE)
I'm just telling you what my position is. I'm asking you: Is the Palestinian issue not an international issue of prominence or not? Please tell me, yes or no?
(APPLAUSE)
There's the plight of a people.
QUESTION: The answer to your question is yes.
AHMADINEJAD (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): Well, thank you for your cooperation. We recognize there's a problem there that's been going on for 60 years. Everybody provides a solution. And our solution is a free referendum.
Let this referendum happen, and then you'll see what the results are.
AHMADINEJAD: Let the people of Palestine freely choose what they want for their future. And then what you want in your mind to happen there will happen and will be realized.
QUESTION: (OFF-MIKE) second question, which was posed by President Bollinger earlier and comes from a number of other students: Why is your government providing aid to terrorists?
Will you stop doing so and permit international monitoring to certify that you have stopped?
AHMADINEJAD (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): Well, I want to pose a question here to you. If someone comes and explodes bombs around you, threatens your president, members of the administration, kills the members of the Senate or Congress, how would you treat them?
Would you reward them, or would you name them a terrorist group?
Well, it's clear. You would call them a terrorist.
My dear friends, the Iranian nation is a victim of terrorism. For --26 years ago, where I worked, close to where I worked, in a terrorist operation, the elected president of the Iranian nation and the elected prime minister of Iran lost their lives in a bomb explosion. They turned into ashes.
A month later, in another terrorist operation, 72 members of our parliament and highest-ranking officials, including four ministers and eight deputy ministers' bodies were shattered into pieces as a result of terrorist attacks.
AHMADINEJAD (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): Within six months, over 4,000 Iranians lost their lives, assassinated by terrorist groups. All this carried out by the hand of one single terrorist group. Regretfully, that same terrorist group now, today, in your country, is being -- operating under the support of the U.S. administration, working freely, distributing declarations freely, and their camps in Iraq are supported by the U.S. government.
They're secured by the U.S. government. Our nation has been harmed by terrorist activities. We were the first nation that objected to terrorism and the first to uphold the need to fight terrorism.
(APPLAUSE)
QUESTION: Mr. President, a number of questioners -- sorry -- a number of people have asked...
AHMADINEJAD (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): We need to address the root causes of terrorism and eradicate those root causes. We live in the Middle East. For us, it's quite clear which powers, sort of, incite terrorists, support them, fund them. We know that. Our nation, the Iranian nation, through history has always extended a hand of friendship to other nations. We're a cultured nation.
We don't need to resort to terrorism. We've been victims of terrorism, ourselves. And it's regrettable that people who argue they're fighting terrorism, instead of supporting the Iranian people and nation, instead of fighting the terrorists that are attacking them, they're supporting the terrorists and then turn the fingers to us.
AHMADINEJAD (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): This is most regrettable.
QUESTION: Mr. President, a further set of questions challenged your view of the Holocaust. Since the evidence that this occurred in Europe in the 1940s, as a result of the actions of the German Nazi government, since that -- those facts -- are well documented, why are you calling for additional research? There seems to be no purpose in doing so, other than to question whether the Holocaust actually occurred as a historical fact.
Can you explain why you believe more research is needed into the facts of what are -- what is -- what are incontrovertible?
AHMADINEJAD (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): Thank you very much for your question. I am an academic, and you are as well.
Can you argue that researching a phenomenon is finished, forever done? Can we close the books for good on a historical event?
There are different perspectives that come to light after every research is done. Why should we stop research at all? Why should we stop the progress of science and knowledge?
You shouldn't ask me why I'm asking questions. You should ask yourselves why you think that that's questionable? Why do you want to stop the progress of science and research?
Do you ever take what's known as absolute in physics? We had principles in mathematics that were granted to be absolute in mathematics for over 800 years. But new science has gotten rid of those absolutisms, come forward other different logics of looking at mathematics and sort of turned the way we look at it as a science altogether after 800 years.
So, we must allow researchers, scholars, they investigate into everything, every phenomenon -- God, universe, human beings, history and civilization. Why should we stop that?
I am not saying that it didn't happen at all. This is not that judgment that I am passing here.
I said, in my second question, granted this happened, what does it have to do with the Palestinian people?
AHMADINEJAD (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): This is a serious question. There are two dimensions. In the first question...
QUESTION: Let me just -- let me pursue this a bit further.
It is difficult to have a scientific discussion if there isn't at least some basis, some empirical basis, some agreement about what the facts are. So calling for research into the facts when the facts are so well established represents for many a challenging of the facts themselves and a denial that something terrible occurred in Europe in those years.
(APPLAUSE)
Let me move on to...
AHMADINEJAD (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): Allow me. After all, you are free to interpret what you want from what I say. But what I am saying I'm saying with full clarity.
In the first question I'm trying to actually uphold the rights of European scholars. In the field of science and research I'm asking, there is nothing known as absolute. There is nothing sufficiently done. Not in physics for certain. There has been more research on physics than it has on the Holocaust, but we still continue to do research on physics. There is nothing wrong with doing it.
This is what man wants. They want to approach a topic from different points of view. Scientists want to do that. Especially an issue that has become the foundation of so many other political developments that have unfolded in the Middle East in the past 60 years.
Why do we stop it altogether? You have to have a justified reason for it. The fact that it was researched sufficiently in the past is not a sufficient justification in my mind.
QUESTION: Mr. President, another student asks -- Iranian women are now denied basic human rights and your government has imposed draconian punishments, including execution on Iranian citizens who are homosexuals. Why are you doing those things?
AHMADINEJAD (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): Freedoms in Iran are genuine, true freedoms. Iranian people are free. Women in Iran enjoy the highest levels of freedom.
We have two deputy -- two vice presidents that are female, at the highest levels of specialty, specialized fields. In our parliament and our government and our universities, they're present. In our biotechnological fields, our technological fields, there are hundreds of women scientists that are active -- in the political realm as well.
It's not -- it's wrong for some governments, when they disagree with another government, to, sort of, try to spread lies that distort the full truth.
Our nation is free. It has the highest level of participation in elections, in Iran. Eighty percent, ninety percent of the people turn out for votes during the elections, half of which, over half of which are women. So how can we say that women are not free? Is that the entire truth?
But as for the executions, I'd like to raise two questions. If someone comes and establishes a network for illicit drug trafficking that affects the youth in Iran, Turkey, Europe, the United States, by introducing these illicit drugs and destroys them, would you ever reward them?
People who lead the lives -- cause the deterioration of the lives of hundreds of millions of youth around the world, including in Iran, can we have any sympathy to them? Don't you have capital punishment in the United States? You do, too.
(APPLAUSE)
AHMADINEJAD (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): In Iran, too, there's capital punishment for illicit drug traffickers, for people who violated the rights of people. If somebody takes up a gun, goes into a house, kills a group of people there, and then tries to take ransom, how would you confront them in Iran -- or in the United States? Would you reward them? Can a physician allow microbes symbolically speaking to spread across a nation?
We have laws. People who violate the public rights of the people by using guns, killing people, creating insecurity, sells drugs, distribute drugs at a high level are sentenced to execution in Iran.
And some of these punishments, very few, are carried in the public eye, before the public eye. It's a law, based on democratic principles. You use injections and microbes to kill these people, and they, they're executed or they're hung. But the end result is killing.
QUESTION: Mr. President, the question isn't about criminal and drug smugglers. The question was about sexual preference and women.
(APPLAUSE)
AHMADINEJAD (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): In Iran, we don't have homosexuals, like in your country.
(LAUGHTER)
We don't have that in our country.
(AUDIENCE BOOING)
AHMADINEJAD (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): In Iran, we do not have this phenomenon. I don't know who's told you that we have it.
(LAUGHTER)
But, as for women, maybe you think that being a woman is a crime. It's not a crime to be a woman.
AHMADINEJAD (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): Women are the best creatures created by God. They represent the kindness, the beauty that God instills in them. Women are respected in Iran. In Iran, every family who is given a girl -- is given -- in every Iranian family who has a girl, they are 10 times happier than having a son. Women are respected more than men are.
They are exempt from many responsibilities. Many of the legal responsibilities rest on the shoulders of men in our society because of the respect, culturally given, to women, to the future mothers. In Iranian culture, men and sons and girls constantly kiss the hands of their mothers as a sign of respect, respect for women. And we are proud of this culture.
QUESTION: Mr. President, I have two questions which I'll put together.
One is, what did you hope to accomplish by speaking at Columbia today? And the second is, what would you have said if you were permitted to visit the site of the September 11th tragedy?
AHMADINEJAD (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): Well, here, I'm your guest. I've been invited by Columbia, an official invitation given for me to come here. But I do want to say something here.
In Iran, when you invite a guest, you respect them. This is our tradition, required by our culture. And I know that American people have that culture, as well. Last year, I wanted to go to the site of the September 11th tragedy to show respect to the victims of the tragedy, to show my sympathy with their families.
But our plans got overextended. We were involved in negotiations and meetings until midnight. And they said it would be very difficult to go visit the site at that late hour of the night. So, I told my friends then that they need to plan this for the following year so that I can go and visit the site and to show my respects.
Regretfully, some groups had very strong reactions, very bad reactions. It's bad for someone to prevent someone to show sympathy to the families of the victims of the September 11 event -- tragic event. This is a respect from my side. Somebody told me this is an insult. I said, "What are you saying? This is my way of showing my respect. Why would you think that?"
Thinking like that, how do you expect to manage the world and world affairs?
AHMADINEJAD (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): Don't you think that a lot of problems in the world come from the way you look at issues because of this kind of way of thinking, because of this sort of pessimistic approach toward a lot of people, because of a certain level of selfishness, self-absorption that needs to be put aside so that we can show respect to everyone, to allow an environment for friendship to grow, to allow all nations to talk with one another and move toward peace?
What was the second question?
I wanted to speak with the press. The September 11th tragic event was a huge event. It led to a lot of many other events afterwards. After 9/11 Afghanistan was occupied, and then Iraq was occupied. And for six years in our region there is insecurity, terror and fear.
If the root causes of 9/11 are examined properly -- why it was happened, what caused it, what were the conditions that led to it, who truly was involved, who was really involved -- and put it all together to understand how to prevent the crisis in Iraq, fix the problem in Afghanistan and Iraq combined.
QUESTION: Mr. President, a number of questions have asked about your nuclear program. Why is your government seeking to acquire enriched uranium suitable for nuclear weapons? Will you stop doing so?
AHMADINEJAD (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): Our nuclear program, first and foremost, operates within the framework of law.
And, second, under the inspections of the IAEA.
And, thirdly, they are completely peaceful.
The technology we have is for enrichment below the level of 5 percent level.
AHMADINEJAD: And any level below 5 percent is solely for providing fuel to power plants. Repeated reports by the IAEA explicitly say that there is no indication that Iran has deviated from the peaceful path of its nuclear program.
We are all well aware that Iran's nuclear issue is a political issue. It's not a legal issue. The international atomic energy organization -- agency has verified that our activities are for peaceful purposes.
But there are two or three powers that think that they have the right to monopolize all science and knowledge. And they expect the Iranian people, the Iranian nation, to turn to others to get fuel, to get science, to get knowledge that's indigenous to itself, to humble itself. And then they would, of course, refrain from giving it to us, too.
So we're quite clear what we need.
If you have created the fifth generation of atomic bombs and are testing them already, what position are you in to question the peaceful purposes of other people who want nuclear power?
We do not believe in nuclear weapons, period. It goes against the whole grain of humanity.
(APPLAUSE)
So let me just joke -- try to tell a joke here. I think the politicians who are after atomic bombs or are testing them, making them, politically, they are backward, retarded.
(APPLAUSE)
QUESTION: Mr. President, a final question. I know your time is short and that you need to move on. Is Iran prepared to open broad discussions with the government of the United States?
What would Iran hope to achieve in such discussions?
How do you see, in the future, a resolution of the points of conflict between the government of the United States and the government of Iran?
AHMADINEJAD (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): From the start, we announced that we are ready to negotiate with all countries.
AHMADINEJAD (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): Since 28 years ago, when our revolution succeeded and we established, we took freedom and democracy that was held at bay by a pro-Western dictatorship. We announced our readiness that besides two countries, we are ready to have friendly relations and talks with all countries of the world.
One of those two was the apartheid regime of South Africa, which has been eliminated. And the second was the Zionist regime. For everybody else around the world, we announced that we want to have friendly, brotherly ties. The Iranian nation is a cultured nation. It is a civilized nation. It seeks -- it wants talks and negotiations. It's for it.
We believe that in negotiations and talks, everything can be resolved very easily. We don't need threats. We don't need to point bombs or guns. We don't need to get into conflicts if we talk. We have a clear logic about that.
We question the way the world is being run and managed today. We believe that it will not lead to viable peace and security for the world, the way it's run today. We have solutions based on humane values and for relations among states. With the U.S. government, too, we will negotiate -- we don't have any issues about that -- under fair, just circumstances with mutual respect on both sides.
You saw that in order to help the security of Iraq, we had three rounds of talks with the United States, and last year, before coming to New York, I announced that I am ready in the United Nations to engage in a debate with Mr. Bush, the president of the United States, about critical international issues.
AHMADINEJAD (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): So that shows that we want to talk. Having a debate before the all the audience, so the truth is revealed, so that misunderstandings and misperceptions are removed, so that we can find a clear path for brotherly and friendly relations.
I think that if the U.S. administration, if the U.S. government puts aside some of its old behaviors, it can actually be a good friend for the Iranian people, for the Iranian nation.
For 28 years, they've consistently threatened us, insulted us, prevented our scientific development, every day, under one pretext or another.
You all know Saddam, the dictator, was supported by the government of the United States and some European countries in attacking Iran. And he carried out an eight-year war, a criminal war. Over 200,000 Iranians lost their lives. Over 600,000 Iranians were hurt as a result of the war.
He used chemical weapons. Thousands of Iranians were victims of chemical weapons that he used against us.
Today, Mr. Noble Vinn (ph), who is a reporter, an official reporter, international reporter, who was covering U.N. reports in the U.N. for many years, he is one of the victims of the chemical weapons used by Iraq against us.
And since then, we've been under different propaganda, sort of embargoes, economic sanctions, political sanctions. Why? Because we got rid of a dictator? Because we wanted the freedom and democracy that we got for ourselves? That, we can't understand.
We think that if the U.S. government recognizes the rights of the Iranian people, respects all nations and extends a hand of friendship with all Iranians, they, too, will see that Iranians will be one of its best friends.
AHMADINEJAD (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): Would you allow me to thank the audience a moment?
Well, there are many things that I would have liked to cover, but I don't want to take your time any further. I was asked: Would I allow the faculty at Columbia and students here to come to Iran? From this platform, I invite Columbia faculty members and students to come and visit Iran, to speak with our university students. You're officially invited.
(APPLAUSE)
University faculty and students that the university decides, or the student associations choose and select are welcome to come. You're welcome to visit any university that you choose inside Iran. We'll provide you with the list of the universities. There are over 400 universities in our country. And you can choose whichever you want to go and visit. We'll give you the platform. We'll respect you 100 percent. We will have our students sit there and listen to you, speak with you, hear what you have to say.
Right now in our universities on a daily basis there are hundreds of meetings like this. They hear, they talk, they ask questions. They welcome it.
In the end I'd like to thank Columbia University. I had heard that many politicians in the United States are trained in Columbia University. And there are many people here who believe in the freedom of speech, in clear, frank conversations.
I do like to extend my gratitude to the managers here in the United States -- at Columbia University, I apologize -- the people who so well organized this meeting today.
AHMADINEJAD (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): I'd like to extend my deepest gratitude to the faculty members and the students here. I ask Almighty God to assist all of us to move hand in hand to establish peace and future filled with friendship and justice and brotherhood.
Best of luck to all of you.
(APPLAUSE)
MODERATOR: I'm sorry that President Ahmadinejad's schedule makes it necessary for him to leave before he's been able to answer many of the questions that we have, or even answer some of the ones that we posed to him.
(LAUGHTER)
(APPLAUSE)
But I think we can all be pleased that his appearance here demonstrates Columbia's deep commitment to free expression and debate. I want to thank you all for coming to participate.
(APPLAUSE)
Thank you.
END
Exposed! Mitt Romney has Close Ties to Blackwater!
Blackwater's vice chairman is Cofer Black, a former CIA counterterrorism official who is serving as a senior adviser to Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney.
But this is just the tip of the iceberg, Underlying evidence shows that support of Mit Romney is just about equal to electing the Bush Admin again.
This should scare the average American because of the deception, tyranny, and removal of our freedoms.
Looks like Romney will inherit his own private military Built By Bush/Cheney at taxpayers expense
With former Whitehouse staff and legal eagles from the current and former Bush Admins. It is starting to look like Romney is playing the typical facist campaign game with Blackwater personell like former Whitewater prosecutor Kenneth Starr and current White House Counsel Fred Fielding.
With the latest controversy swirling around Blackwater is the Sept. 16 shooting of 11 Iraqis by contractors. Blackwater is struggleing to stay in Iraq and it's soilders could face criminal charges for the blatent murders.
We had a video of the actual murders on this blog, but soon after it was made public, the account was stopped and removed for violations of terms of service, and now the account says removed by publisher.
Looks like more political corruption and more likely than not, Google and Youtube has squashed freedom of speech and the free press.
Why else would the video be removed and then the reason for removal changed?
Doesen't look like romney would be a step in the right direction to me.
Click here for your "Credible Source"!
But this is just the tip of the iceberg, Underlying evidence shows that support of Mit Romney is just about equal to electing the Bush Admin again.
This should scare the average American because of the deception, tyranny, and removal of our freedoms.
Looks like Romney will inherit his own private military Built By Bush/Cheney at taxpayers expense
With former Whitehouse staff and legal eagles from the current and former Bush Admins. It is starting to look like Romney is playing the typical facist campaign game with Blackwater personell like former Whitewater prosecutor Kenneth Starr and current White House Counsel Fred Fielding.
With the latest controversy swirling around Blackwater is the Sept. 16 shooting of 11 Iraqis by contractors. Blackwater is struggleing to stay in Iraq and it's soilders could face criminal charges for the blatent murders.
We had a video of the actual murders on this blog, but soon after it was made public, the account was stopped and removed for violations of terms of service, and now the account says removed by publisher.
Looks like more political corruption and more likely than not, Google and Youtube has squashed freedom of speech and the free press.
Why else would the video be removed and then the reason for removal changed?
Doesen't look like romney would be a step in the right direction to me.
Click here for your "Credible Source"!
Our Country (America) does not exist anymore.
Neither party does the will of the people. Our Government is supposed to be "By the People and For the People", Yet it is By the elites and For the Elites!
There is no way to save our country, Our Country (America) does not exist anymore.
MSNBC took a poll, and 98% want Bush and Cheney Impeached, and most other polls have similar results, Yet the Paid off Politicians keep using "we do not have the votes to Impeach"
and estimated 70% are wanting our troops home NOW! and they do not listen. They do what they want anyway.
About 85% want warrantless wiretaps stopped, yet they expand the program.
Torture, the same story.
Whenever you do get a decent candidate, the media blocks them, refuses airtime(unless it is negative) and then attack the followers of that person if attacking the candidate does not work.
Well, how do you know until you try? Yet they will not even try.
Now, the Government is using a propaganda campaign just like they did on Iraq with Iran, and you fools are buying it again.
Haven't you read where Cheney considered asking Israel to fire missles into iran to provoke a retaliation? So the U.S. could be justified to invade them also.
WMD's? Reah right!
You people have sat on your dead asses so long that it is now too late!
We have been warning you for years, How does it feel to know that you are stupid and in denial?
There is no way to save our country, Our Country (America) does not exist anymore.
MSNBC took a poll, and 98% want Bush and Cheney Impeached, and most other polls have similar results, Yet the Paid off Politicians keep using "we do not have the votes to Impeach"
and estimated 70% are wanting our troops home NOW! and they do not listen. They do what they want anyway.
About 85% want warrantless wiretaps stopped, yet they expand the program.
Torture, the same story.
Whenever you do get a decent candidate, the media blocks them, refuses airtime(unless it is negative) and then attack the followers of that person if attacking the candidate does not work.
Well, how do you know until you try? Yet they will not even try.
Now, the Government is using a propaganda campaign just like they did on Iraq with Iran, and you fools are buying it again.
Haven't you read where Cheney considered asking Israel to fire missles into iran to provoke a retaliation? So the U.S. could be justified to invade them also.
WMD's? Reah right!
You people have sat on your dead asses so long that it is now too late!
We have been warning you for years, How does it feel to know that you are stupid and in denial?
Saturday, September 22, 2007
10 Things We Can Do To Take America Back From The Corruption!
1.Vote out all incumbents
2.Impeach the Entire Bush admin. procecute.
3.Term limits, 1 term and you are out. Period!
4.Take away the right of Corp's to lobby.
5.Make campaign contributions legal ONLY from citizens and a max of 200 bucks each.
6.Make the voting paper again.
7.Eliminate Private contractors in a war zone.
8.Charge police officers with the crimes they commit.
9.Eliminate the Federal Reserve which is privately owned.
10.If all of this fails, Do what the Constitution allows for. Disolve the current Government and start over.
But the quickest way is to do a boycot of all major media, and corperations and go on strike until they listen and DO what the people want
2.Impeach the Entire Bush admin. procecute.
3.Term limits, 1 term and you are out. Period!
4.Take away the right of Corp's to lobby.
5.Make campaign contributions legal ONLY from citizens and a max of 200 bucks each.
6.Make the voting paper again.
7.Eliminate Private contractors in a war zone.
8.Charge police officers with the crimes they commit.
9.Eliminate the Federal Reserve which is privately owned.
10.If all of this fails, Do what the Constitution allows for. Disolve the current Government and start over.
But the quickest way is to do a boycot of all major media, and corperations and go on strike until they listen and DO what the people want
American Tax Dollars Paying For Sport Murdering! The America I Grew Up In Would Stop This NOW!
This is Repulsive to know that OUR tax dollars are supporting a Company that MURDERS for fun.
Did not think the U.S. Military would fire on the People of the U.S. Well, The fact is that they do not have to. Bush and Cheney have Bought and established their own private Army with your tax dollars, And it's Name Is Blackwater!
They answer to only Bush And Cheney because even Congress will not do anything about this.
Watch the Video. And see how proud you really are to be an "AMERICAN" now!
Coming soon to a city near you!
You Paid For It!
Did not think the U.S. Military would fire on the People of the U.S. Well, The fact is that they do not have to. Bush and Cheney have Bought and established their own private Army with your tax dollars, And it's Name Is Blackwater!
They answer to only Bush And Cheney because even Congress will not do anything about this.
Watch the Video. And see how proud you really are to be an "AMERICAN" now!
Coming soon to a city near you!
You Paid For It!
GOP Showing Their True Colors! NO BLACKS ALLOWED!
The candidates for the Republican party's presidential nod are building quite a track record--of snubbing prospective voters Especialy African Americans. Fred Thompson, Mitt Romney, Rudolph Giuliani and John McCain--added the PBS-sponsored debate at Baltimore's historically-black Morgan State University to their "I'll-pass" list. That list now includes the National Urban League, Univision, the Spanish-language television network, the National Association of Latino Elected Officials and the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People. It's getting to be a long list.
Read the rest of the Story Here.
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Wednesday, September 19, 2007
Headline By Major Media "Senate Blocks Bill" When it is Republicans Doing The Bad Deeds!
Here is the actual voting record from the senate, and it is overwhelming republicans that blocked our troops getting a fair shake!
Yahoo News has "SENATE BLOCKS"
Forbes has "SENATE BLOCKED"
Washington Post reads "SENATE BLOCKS"
The only one i seen that has the real story is U.S.A. Today and it's title reads: Dems fail to overcome GOP filibuster on Iraq
U.S. Senate Roll Call Votes 110th Congress - 1st Session
as compiled through Senate LIS by the Senate Bill Clerk under the direction of the Secretary of the Senate
Vote Summary
Question: On the Amendment (McCain Amdt. No. 2918 )
Vote Number: 342 Vote Date: September 19, 2007, 05:56 PM
Required For Majority: 3/5 Vote Result: Amendment Rejected
Amendment Number: S.Amdt. 2918 to S.Amdt. 2011 to H.R. 1585 (National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2008)
Statement of Purpose: To express the sense of Congress on Department of Defense policy regarding dwell time.
Vote Counts: YEAs 55
NAYs 45
Vote Summary By Senator Name By Vote Position By Home State
Alphabetical by Senator Name Akaka (D-HI), Nay
Alexander (R-TN), Yea
Allard (R-CO), Yea
Barrasso (R-WY), Yea
Baucus (D-MT), Nay
Bayh (D-IN), Yea
Bennett (R-UT), Yea
Biden (D-DE), Yea
Bingaman (D-NM), Nay
Bond (R-MO), Yea
Boxer (D-CA), Nay
Brown (D-OH), Nay
Brownback (R-KS), Yea
Bunning (R-KY), Yea
Burr (R-NC), Yea
Byrd (D-WV), Nay
Cantwell (D-WA), Nay
Cardin (D-MD), Nay
Carper (D-DE), Nay
Casey (D-PA), Nay
Chambliss (R-GA), Yea
Clinton (D-NY), Nay
Coburn (R-OK), Yea
Cochran (R-MS), Yea
Coleman (R-MN), Yea
Collins (R-ME), Yea
Conrad (D-ND), Nay
Corker (R-TN), Yea
Cornyn (R-TX), Yea
Craig (R-ID), Yea
Crapo (R-ID), Yea
DeMint (R-SC), Yea
Dodd (D-CT), Nay
Dole (R-NC), Yea
Domenici (R-NM), Yea
Dorgan (D-ND), Nay
Durbin (D-IL), Nay
Ensign (R-NV), Yea
Enzi (R-WY), Yea
Feingold (D-WI), Nay
Feinstein (D-CA), Nay
Graham (R-SC), Yea
Grassley (R-IA), Yea
Gregg (R-NH), Yea
Hagel (R-NE), Nay
Harkin (D-IA), Nay
Hatch (R-UT), Yea
Hutchison (R-TX), Yea
Inhofe (R-OK), Yea
Inouye (D-HI), Nay
Isakson (R-GA), Yea
Johnson (D-SD), Yea
Kennedy (D-MA), Nay
Kerry (D-MA), Nay
Klobuchar (D-MN), Nay
Kohl (D-WI), Nay
Kyl (R-AZ), Yea
Landrieu (D-LA), Yea
Lautenberg (D-NJ), Nay
Leahy (D-VT), Nay
Levin (D-MI), Nay
Lieberman (ID-CT), Yea
Lincoln (D-AR), Nay
Lott (R-MS), Yea
Lugar (R-IN), Yea
Martinez (R-FL), Yea
McCain (R-AZ), Yea
McCaskill (D-MO), Nay
McConnell (R-KY), Yea
Menendez (D-NJ), Nay
Mikulski (D-MD), Nay
Murkowski (R-AK), Yea
Murray (D-WA), Nay
Nelson (D-FL), Yea
Nelson (D-NE), Yea
Obama (D-IL), Nay
Pryor (D-AR), Nay
Reed (D-RI), Nay
Reid (D-NV), Nay
Roberts (R-KS), Yea
Rockefeller (D-WV), Nay
Salazar (D-CO), Nay
Sanders (I-VT), Nay
Schumer (D-NY), Nay
Sessions (R-AL), Yea
Shelby (R-AL), Yea
Smith (R-OR), Yea
Snowe (R-ME), Yea
Specter (R-PA), Yea
Stabenow (D-MI), Nay
Stevens (R-AK), Yea
Sununu (R-NH), Yea
Tester (D-MT), Nay
Thune (R-SD), Yea
Vitter (R-LA), Yea
Voinovich (R-OH), Yea
Warner (R-VA), Yea
Webb (D-VA), Nay
Whitehouse (D-RI), Nay
Wyden (D-OR), Nay
Yahoo News has "SENATE BLOCKS"
Forbes has "SENATE BLOCKED"
Washington Post reads "SENATE BLOCKS"
The only one i seen that has the real story is U.S.A. Today and it's title reads: Dems fail to overcome GOP filibuster on Iraq
It is a sad day when we voted in Dems for change and the Republicans are still blocking.
We need to put a stop to this. Contact your rep, and chew their ass out!
U.S. Senate Roll Call Votes 110th Congress - 1st Session
as compiled through Senate LIS by the Senate Bill Clerk under the direction of the Secretary of the Senate
Vote Summary
Question: On the Amendment (McCain Amdt. No. 2918 )
Vote Number: 342 Vote Date: September 19, 2007, 05:56 PM
Required For Majority: 3/5 Vote Result: Amendment Rejected
Amendment Number: S.Amdt. 2918 to S.Amdt. 2011 to H.R. 1585 (National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2008)
Statement of Purpose: To express the sense of Congress on Department of Defense policy regarding dwell time.
Vote Counts: YEAs 55
NAYs 45
Vote Summary By Senator Name By Vote Position By Home State
Alphabetical by Senator Name Akaka (D-HI), Nay
Alexander (R-TN), Yea
Allard (R-CO), Yea
Barrasso (R-WY), Yea
Baucus (D-MT), Nay
Bayh (D-IN), Yea
Bennett (R-UT), Yea
Biden (D-DE), Yea
Bingaman (D-NM), Nay
Bond (R-MO), Yea
Boxer (D-CA), Nay
Brown (D-OH), Nay
Brownback (R-KS), Yea
Bunning (R-KY), Yea
Burr (R-NC), Yea
Byrd (D-WV), Nay
Cantwell (D-WA), Nay
Cardin (D-MD), Nay
Carper (D-DE), Nay
Casey (D-PA), Nay
Chambliss (R-GA), Yea
Clinton (D-NY), Nay
Coburn (R-OK), Yea
Cochran (R-MS), Yea
Coleman (R-MN), Yea
Collins (R-ME), Yea
Conrad (D-ND), Nay
Corker (R-TN), Yea
Cornyn (R-TX), Yea
Craig (R-ID), Yea
Crapo (R-ID), Yea
DeMint (R-SC), Yea
Dodd (D-CT), Nay
Dole (R-NC), Yea
Domenici (R-NM), Yea
Dorgan (D-ND), Nay
Durbin (D-IL), Nay
Ensign (R-NV), Yea
Enzi (R-WY), Yea
Feingold (D-WI), Nay
Feinstein (D-CA), Nay
Graham (R-SC), Yea
Grassley (R-IA), Yea
Gregg (R-NH), Yea
Hagel (R-NE), Nay
Harkin (D-IA), Nay
Hatch (R-UT), Yea
Hutchison (R-TX), Yea
Inhofe (R-OK), Yea
Inouye (D-HI), Nay
Isakson (R-GA), Yea
Johnson (D-SD), Yea
Kennedy (D-MA), Nay
Kerry (D-MA), Nay
Klobuchar (D-MN), Nay
Kohl (D-WI), Nay
Kyl (R-AZ), Yea
Landrieu (D-LA), Yea
Lautenberg (D-NJ), Nay
Leahy (D-VT), Nay
Levin (D-MI), Nay
Lieberman (ID-CT), Yea
Lincoln (D-AR), Nay
Lott (R-MS), Yea
Lugar (R-IN), Yea
Martinez (R-FL), Yea
McCain (R-AZ), Yea
McCaskill (D-MO), Nay
McConnell (R-KY), Yea
Menendez (D-NJ), Nay
Mikulski (D-MD), Nay
Murkowski (R-AK), Yea
Murray (D-WA), Nay
Nelson (D-FL), Yea
Nelson (D-NE), Yea
Obama (D-IL), Nay
Pryor (D-AR), Nay
Reed (D-RI), Nay
Reid (D-NV), Nay
Roberts (R-KS), Yea
Rockefeller (D-WV), Nay
Salazar (D-CO), Nay
Sanders (I-VT), Nay
Schumer (D-NY), Nay
Sessions (R-AL), Yea
Shelby (R-AL), Yea
Smith (R-OR), Yea
Snowe (R-ME), Yea
Specter (R-PA), Yea
Stabenow (D-MI), Nay
Stevens (R-AK), Yea
Sununu (R-NH), Yea
Tester (D-MT), Nay
Thune (R-SD), Yea
Vitter (R-LA), Yea
Voinovich (R-OH), Yea
Warner (R-VA), Yea
Webb (D-VA), Nay
Whitehouse (D-RI), Nay
Wyden (D-OR), Nay
Congress Has The Power of The Purse, But We Hold The Purse Strings!
It is often said that congress has the power of the purse, But WE THE PEOPLE are the ones that fill that purse.
It is commonly known that "special interest" a fancy phrase for corp buyoffs of our politicians. And most say that we can do nothing about it and that is where i do not agree.
Spread the word and lets organize a 4 hour powerdown of the Television. This will cost the major corperate companies to lose billions in revenue. it will include missed commercials, the cost of the advertising and the lost sales and branding effect.
The only thing these people pay attention to is money, so lets lighten the load a little and see if they decide to pay attention to us again.
Lets get a 4 hour blackout from the tube on Sept 30th and start at 7:00P.M until 11:00P.M and this will cost them billions.
Then, If that does not work we can go to step 2 which would be a day of boycot of any given target('s).
They hold the purse, but we do not have to put anything in it! I know, you say they will borrow it, But i doubt that their credit will go very far without income.
We, as a country have always come togather in a time of need. and WE NEED to get a grip on this tyrannicle Government before we are slaves by our own inaction.
It is commonly known that "special interest" a fancy phrase for corp buyoffs of our politicians. And most say that we can do nothing about it and that is where i do not agree.
Spread the word and lets organize a 4 hour powerdown of the Television. This will cost the major corperate companies to lose billions in revenue. it will include missed commercials, the cost of the advertising and the lost sales and branding effect.
The only thing these people pay attention to is money, so lets lighten the load a little and see if they decide to pay attention to us again.
Lets get a 4 hour blackout from the tube on Sept 30th and start at 7:00P.M until 11:00P.M and this will cost them billions.
Then, If that does not work we can go to step 2 which would be a day of boycot of any given target('s).
They hold the purse, but we do not have to put anything in it! I know, you say they will borrow it, But i doubt that their credit will go very far without income.
We, as a country have always come togather in a time of need. and WE NEED to get a grip on this tyrannicle Government before we are slaves by our own inaction.
CONGRESSMEN NOW PRACTISING EXECUTIVE PRIVLAGE!
Some of our Congressmen are now using the same methods the Bush Admin use to evade legal subpoena to congressmembers refuseing to provide documents, testimony in bribery case.
Now our congress is acting like G.W. and Cheney.
When are Americans going to Grow a set and put a stop to this.
We The People do still have the control of the Money.
Shut the Big Corps off and they can't pay off politicians!
Wake Up America, Before there is No America to wake up too.
I would suggest that "WE THE PEOPLE" shut our T.V.'s off one day and not spend 1 red cent.
They want to waste our tax dollors, Well, we will just start giving them less to waste!
Read the entire story HERE.
Now our congress is acting like G.W. and Cheney.
When are Americans going to Grow a set and put a stop to this.
We The People do still have the control of the Money.
Shut the Big Corps off and they can't pay off politicians!
Wake Up America, Before there is No America to wake up too.
I would suggest that "WE THE PEOPLE" shut our T.V.'s off one day and not spend 1 red cent.
They want to waste our tax dollors, Well, we will just start giving them less to waste!
Read the entire story HERE.
They Hate Our Freedom! And We Reveal Who "THEY" Are!
They Hate OUR FREEDOM!
U.S. Senate Roll Call Votes 110th Congress - 1st Session
as compiled through Senate LIS by the Senate Bill Clerk under the direction of the Secretary of the Senate
Vote Summary
Question: On the Cloture Motion (Motion to Invoke Cloture on the Specter Amdt. No. 2022 )
Vote Number: 340 Vote Date: September 19, 2007, 10:47 AM
Required For Majority: 3/5 Vote Result: Cloture Motion Rejected
Amendment Number: S.Amdt. 2022 to S.Amdt. 2011 to H.R. 1585 (National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2008)
Statement of Purpose: To restore habeas corpus for those detained by the United States.
Vote Counts: YEAs 56
NAYs 43
Not Voting 1
This was the bill that was supposed to restore our rights to a fair trial by a group of our peers.
I guess our congress and senate do not like OUR FREEDOM!
Like our President, it seems our congress and senate cowards(Communist) have more to fear now. They must really believe that we are not going to say anything about this?
It is time for America to start Boycotting the Major Corperations and use OUR power of the Purse to stop the tryanny and gain control of our country again.
Click Here to see if your represenative voted for Communism!
U.S. Senate Roll Call Votes 110th Congress - 1st Session
as compiled through Senate LIS by the Senate Bill Clerk under the direction of the Secretary of the Senate
Vote Summary
Question: On the Cloture Motion (Motion to Invoke Cloture on the Specter Amdt. No. 2022 )
Vote Number: 340 Vote Date: September 19, 2007, 10:47 AM
Required For Majority: 3/5 Vote Result: Cloture Motion Rejected
Amendment Number: S.Amdt. 2022 to S.Amdt. 2011 to H.R. 1585 (National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2008)
Statement of Purpose: To restore habeas corpus for those detained by the United States.
Vote Counts: YEAs 56
NAYs 43
Not Voting 1
This was the bill that was supposed to restore our rights to a fair trial by a group of our peers.
I guess our congress and senate do not like OUR FREEDOM!
Like our President, it seems our congress and senate cowards(Communist) have more to fear now. They must really believe that we are not going to say anything about this?
It is time for America to start Boycotting the Major Corperations and use OUR power of the Purse to stop the tryanny and gain control of our country again.
Click Here to see if your represenative voted for Communism!
All 6 that Died Tied Directly to - Minot AFB Nuke. Looks like this admin will see the Nuke They Desire On American Soil!
I am not going to get too far into this. We all know what is going on here.
6 mens, Directly tied to Missing Nukes all seem to have "Accidents" that resulted in death within one week of the incident. And the News Media Ignores the Story??
The ones who run CNN, FOX, MSNBC also needs to be tried for treason when Bush And Cheney are Finaly Impeached for their crimes against the American People and the World.
Read the Rest Of the Story Here.
6 mens, Directly tied to Missing Nukes all seem to have "Accidents" that resulted in death within one week of the incident. And the News Media Ignores the Story??
The ones who run CNN, FOX, MSNBC also needs to be tried for treason when Bush And Cheney are Finaly Impeached for their crimes against the American People and the World.
Read the Rest Of the Story Here.
Tuesday, September 18, 2007
Something Every American Should Consider.
Republicans Block Voting Machine Testing in Ohio Was the headline i read on dailykos.com I read the article and had some thoughts about the mindset of the American Public.
This is beginning to bother me quite a bit that there is less public pressure for our Gov. to start doing the will of the people instead of the will of the Corp. Giants.
WE THE PEOPLE has, as it seems, to have lost its morals. As a whole we as a nation that says you are innocent until proven guilty, to support, be indifferent, our just have no values anymore.
We let a government rigg voting machines, and when they block justice, we just sit there and let them get away with it. Over the years we, as a country caused political outcries when "other Countries" were found to have the voting rigged. We called them crooks, Liars, Criminals, Rogue Nations, Terrorist States, And a host of other names.
Now when it is happening to US. We do nothing? What have Americans Become? Are we going to let the "Rogue" Government. And yes, If we call someone else a rogue, then if we fall into this catagory, we are by our own standards calling our own country a rogue state. But we do nothing about it. Just sit on our ass and complain to each other, When we should be complaining to the Gov. of the U.S.
Then you have illegal searches and seizures. Again, the American public cries out if the rest of the world has police state type laws and regulations. Well, we have laws to protect us from this breach of the 4th Amendment.
You , As an American, have had your rights trampled on by our government with strip searches in airports, and i can't recall one American on the 9-11 terrorist attack in the planes(?).
Yet we are treated as a criminal or "Potential Criminal" or "Terrorist".
It may be that Americans are not that bright, or they are just getting sorry. This policy of treating someone as guilty and has no right to defend himself, no right to legal council, no rights at all. On the word of Any Government "official" you as an American can now be detained and held without charge for as long as they want to keep you, No right to an attorney, no constitutional rights, and you will not even have the right to examine (or even be sure that they have any) "Evidence" that the Government holds against you.
If we see some other country doing this, We call it a communist country. So, looking at these few examples, how do you now feel as an American?
We used to be a Country that took care of Our Country, Kept it clean and free of tryanny. This who Country that we now have spilled their blood to get away from a government that is a modern "mirror Image" if the U.S.A..
Taxing, Lying, Deciet, Lawlwsness, Criminal acts by high ranking officials for political and Income Gains.
And the Ultimate end product of all of this political lawlessness is "wars?". We have yet to declare war, Why???? Why will the U.S. not declare war against IRAQ? Well, if we declare war on a country or state, Then you will be breaking international law(AGAIN) for attacking a country on a percieved threat and then you call it a "WAR ON TERROR". No state or country is specified, But rather an Idea.
Now, it is hard to have a conventional war against an idea. Let me explain... The Iraqi "insurgents" are people who are just tired of having been invaded by a foreign country and forcing it's will on the people.
How would you react if some country came and bombed our country, Kill Millions Americans, destroy our overnment and then PIC the leaders for your country. I am sure that you would get tired and start fighting back also, at least the ones with any standards, and that is what an "Insurgent"is! They are tired of the Murdering invader, and they had nothing to do with 9-11. They know where the supposed highjackers came from, and that would be Saudi. 17 of the 19 supposed highjackers came from Saudi. And even the accused ringleader OBL was a Saudi.
So why again are we in IRAQ?
We openly attacked a country, overthrew the Government, Put our monitary system in place(sadam removed it, he would not sell oil with the U.S. Dollar anymore). Killed millions, Destroyed their Military so they could not be left, and so it gives our government justification to continue to STAY!
These are just a few things that our government does openly that denies our righs, ignores the will of the People, and runs ranpant with tyranny.
The Good News!
The good news is that it is still not too late to fix the problem. All of the corruption is because the politicians are bought off with campaign funding from our Corperate Giants.
They do not listen to the People, but they do whatever the "COMPANIES" want.
We do as Americans have the power of the purse. Not congress.
Boycot big corperations nationaly for one day. No wal-mart. No driving, do not go to work, Do not buy anything that is not from a local retailer, Hell, Do not even turn any T.V. Or Radio on, this alone would cost big corp's billions in wasted advertising. Can you imagine the crunch on Ford, Toyota, IBM, The stock market, and everthing else the consider precious.
Then, if they do not listen, you do a 3 day boycot.
And increase it in lenght until they listen and do as the people want.
We do control the money.
I would be nice to see a hugh company like wal mart empty nation wide for a whole day.
This would soon change their attitude toward the American people.
Force the Government to change with YOUR money(or lack of it) and they will soon wake up, or show their true colors and make another hugh mistake by using our military on us.
This is beginning to bother me quite a bit that there is less public pressure for our Gov. to start doing the will of the people instead of the will of the Corp. Giants.
WE THE PEOPLE has, as it seems, to have lost its morals. As a whole we as a nation that says you are innocent until proven guilty, to support, be indifferent, our just have no values anymore.
We let a government rigg voting machines, and when they block justice, we just sit there and let them get away with it. Over the years we, as a country caused political outcries when "other Countries" were found to have the voting rigged. We called them crooks, Liars, Criminals, Rogue Nations, Terrorist States, And a host of other names.
Now when it is happening to US. We do nothing? What have Americans Become? Are we going to let the "Rogue" Government. And yes, If we call someone else a rogue, then if we fall into this catagory, we are by our own standards calling our own country a rogue state. But we do nothing about it. Just sit on our ass and complain to each other, When we should be complaining to the Gov. of the U.S.
Then you have illegal searches and seizures. Again, the American public cries out if the rest of the world has police state type laws and regulations. Well, we have laws to protect us from this breach of the 4th Amendment.
You , As an American, have had your rights trampled on by our government with strip searches in airports, and i can't recall one American on the 9-11 terrorist attack in the planes(?).
Yet we are treated as a criminal or "Potential Criminal" or "Terrorist".
It may be that Americans are not that bright, or they are just getting sorry. This policy of treating someone as guilty and has no right to defend himself, no right to legal council, no rights at all. On the word of Any Government "official" you as an American can now be detained and held without charge for as long as they want to keep you, No right to an attorney, no constitutional rights, and you will not even have the right to examine (or even be sure that they have any) "Evidence" that the Government holds against you.
If we see some other country doing this, We call it a communist country. So, looking at these few examples, how do you now feel as an American?
We used to be a Country that took care of Our Country, Kept it clean and free of tryanny. This who Country that we now have spilled their blood to get away from a government that is a modern "mirror Image" if the U.S.A..
Taxing, Lying, Deciet, Lawlwsness, Criminal acts by high ranking officials for political and Income Gains.
And the Ultimate end product of all of this political lawlessness is "wars?". We have yet to declare war, Why???? Why will the U.S. not declare war against IRAQ? Well, if we declare war on a country or state, Then you will be breaking international law(AGAIN) for attacking a country on a percieved threat and then you call it a "WAR ON TERROR". No state or country is specified, But rather an Idea.
Now, it is hard to have a conventional war against an idea. Let me explain... The Iraqi "insurgents" are people who are just tired of having been invaded by a foreign country and forcing it's will on the people.
How would you react if some country came and bombed our country, Kill Millions Americans, destroy our overnment and then PIC the leaders for your country. I am sure that you would get tired and start fighting back also, at least the ones with any standards, and that is what an "Insurgent"is! They are tired of the Murdering invader, and they had nothing to do with 9-11. They know where the supposed highjackers came from, and that would be Saudi. 17 of the 19 supposed highjackers came from Saudi. And even the accused ringleader OBL was a Saudi.
So why again are we in IRAQ?
We openly attacked a country, overthrew the Government, Put our monitary system in place(sadam removed it, he would not sell oil with the U.S. Dollar anymore). Killed millions, Destroyed their Military so they could not be left, and so it gives our government justification to continue to STAY!
These are just a few things that our government does openly that denies our righs, ignores the will of the People, and runs ranpant with tyranny.
The Good News!
The good news is that it is still not too late to fix the problem. All of the corruption is because the politicians are bought off with campaign funding from our Corperate Giants.
They do not listen to the People, but they do whatever the "COMPANIES" want.
We do as Americans have the power of the purse. Not congress.
Boycot big corperations nationaly for one day. No wal-mart. No driving, do not go to work, Do not buy anything that is not from a local retailer, Hell, Do not even turn any T.V. Or Radio on, this alone would cost big corp's billions in wasted advertising. Can you imagine the crunch on Ford, Toyota, IBM, The stock market, and everthing else the consider precious.
Then, if they do not listen, you do a 3 day boycot.
And increase it in lenght until they listen and do as the people want.
We do control the money.
I would be nice to see a hugh company like wal mart empty nation wide for a whole day.
This would soon change their attitude toward the American people.
Force the Government to change with YOUR money(or lack of it) and they will soon wake up, or show their true colors and make another hugh mistake by using our military on us.
Sunday, September 16, 2007
Creating Pro War Propaganda For Children? Roll Playing War Games Online Has Made a Big Hit In Just 3 Days.
I recently ran across a site for a new and just released web based Roll Playing War Game called U.S.A Tatics. It has some really nice flash and a professional design of the home page. But there are a few issues with it.
It is targeted to children and young adults and it comes across as making the "War On Terror" and (this is an actual group in the site) "George Bushes New World Order" acceptable. and it struck me as propaganda sine no one has heard the term "New World Order" in politics since George Bush Sr. said it during his admin.
The public outcry from that statement by Bush Sr. was so quick and intense that it was never said publicly by any politician since.
The political [parties then went to the term "Global Economy" to replace New World Order. Which really means the same thing.
Now, I am not pointing fingers on this, it may just be a tech company building games as usual and targeting what seems to be hot right now with all of the PRO WAR Media in the U.S.
But a Gaming site that is web based, is 100% free and has no apparent advertising on the site would make me wonder who gains from this type of site.
It is so simple to sign up. all you need is an email addres, set your password and you have instant access. But you have several phrases and groups like George Bushs New World Order spread all over the site.
Are they attempting to train our children and adults to accept the phrases?
Let's get real people, Even this blog is supported by ads, and it is nowhere near the scale of a free online games site and has little chance of gaining the traffic or burning the bandwidth that a game site would.
Think it what i am telling you is not the truth? Click Here to take a look at the site yourself.
Just get a yahoo email and sign up and look at the text on the inside. you might be suprised by what you see!
It is targeted to children and young adults and it comes across as making the "War On Terror" and (this is an actual group in the site) "George Bushes New World Order" acceptable. and it struck me as propaganda sine no one has heard the term "New World Order" in politics since George Bush Sr. said it during his admin.
The public outcry from that statement by Bush Sr. was so quick and intense that it was never said publicly by any politician since.
The political [parties then went to the term "Global Economy" to replace New World Order. Which really means the same thing.
Now, I am not pointing fingers on this, it may just be a tech company building games as usual and targeting what seems to be hot right now with all of the PRO WAR Media in the U.S.
But a Gaming site that is web based, is 100% free and has no apparent advertising on the site would make me wonder who gains from this type of site.
It is so simple to sign up. all you need is an email addres, set your password and you have instant access. But you have several phrases and groups like George Bushs New World Order spread all over the site.
Are they attempting to train our children and adults to accept the phrases?
Let's get real people, Even this blog is supported by ads, and it is nowhere near the scale of a free online games site and has little chance of gaining the traffic or burning the bandwidth that a game site would.
Think it what i am telling you is not the truth? Click Here to take a look at the site yourself.
Just get a yahoo email and sign up and look at the text on the inside. you might be suprised by what you see!
Saturday, September 15, 2007
Bush Is Not Stupid! The American Population is Stupid.
It is about time an Honest American tells the truth and since no one else want's to step up to the pump, I guess i will.
I keep hearing people call Bush a moron, Retarded, Crazy and a host of other names when the finger needs to be pointed at the person you see in the miror.
First, Let's look at the goals that the Bush Admin has attained since his coup in Nov. 2000. He first stoled the elections and there was NO public outcry. Just the news media capitalizing on the buzz! Notice i said "buzz"?
Then there was this think tank that is PNAC. Do a search on PNAC and read their site in full. What you read there may suprise you.
It is basicaly the playbook for the Bush Admin. And it has been followed to the T. Over 80% of the Pnac documents "whish list" has been completed. With subjects like a transformation with a catalyst described as "A New Pearl Harbor" 9-11 opened the doors to their wish list.
Military spending has been raised to the exact figure the documents suggested. We have taken on a pre-emptive position with foreign policy as stated in the documents. Securing Middle east natural resources and as stated in the documents "especialy persian gulf oil" as written.
Dick Cheney has openly favored for years that the president have more power than the Constitution allows.
They have implimented torture against American and International laws. Lied Repeatedly to the people of America and the world and have not had to answer for it by blocking the justice system with politics. Using record signing statements is one of the staples of this admin.
Warrantless wiretaps, Illegal searches of the American People. Power grabs by presidential directives where he can can now take control of state guard units without approval of the States Govenor.
Prior to 9-11 the "Patriot Act?" was already a completed draft. Enacting laws and presidential directives that gives him almost unlimited powers that include suspending the constitution of the U.S. if he see's fit to do so under any "emergency" that he himself declares.
He has lied and twisted information to justify an illegal invasion into a country that they claimed had WMD's, when in fact they knew the whole time that there were no WMD's.
This list could go on and on. with over 1000 signing statements. A statement that the Constitution is a "God Damned peice of paper" this president and his admin has broken about every law a President could break, and got caught, and still blocks justice openly.
And The People of America have the Nerve to call him Stupid?
The fact of the matter is that the People of America are the Morons, Retarded, Crazy and a host of other names that they so love to call this President.
He keeps dishing it out and "We The Sheeple" keep taking it. Just today he squashed an Anti War protest on the hill and arrested over 190 protesters who were practising their Rights as an American. Again today. He breaks the Laws and denies us the rights protected by the Constitution of the United States of America.
70 years ago we were told "We have nothing to fear but fear itself". And now this Admin tells us to Fear everything, and give up your liberty for Freedom.
You Retards, Liberty is Freedom. Thinking patterns have changed and now we are taught to rely on a government that is just as corrupt as Hitler himself.
you people are so dumbed down that you think you have no way to stop the insanity, but in fact you, as an American do have the power of the Purse. Not Congress.
I know that you say that they can spend as they please, and if we do not go along, they will get support from the Big Corp American Giants. Well, I have news for you, A 3 day boycott of the major corperations will shut them up and make them listen and do. If 3 days do not work, A week will, and then if it takes more, so be it.
If they have no income, they can't buy the politicians anymore. "We the People" are still in power(for now).
They are collapsing our econemy, lowering wages and consilidating wealth. this is designed to destroy the middle class. And they do want to destroy the middle class. The reason they want this is because if you are poor, you can not fight back, you do not have the resources to do so.
If you look at 3rd world countries, they are controlled by governments and can not even afford fight back. and you can be assured that if you are poor, it is a struggle just to eat, and a sickly popluation has never been able to regain controll of "THEIR" government.
American are still somewhat comfortable and will sit on their lazy asses until they feel the pain. But by the time the pain spreads to the masses of the population, it will be too late, Just as it has happened throughout history.
Are you aware that the Patriot Act is being used to imprision U.S. Citizens right now? There are Americans that are not terrorist serving extended sentances right now from the Patriot Act.
I am going to prove a point about the lazy Population right here. when was the last time you were upset, disturbed, worried or angry about what this admin has done?
What did you do about it? Not one phone call to a senator or congress man. Not one letter, nothing! You just sit on your fat asses and point fingers at Democrats or Republicans when Neither Party gives a shit about you.
you just recently fell for one of the oldest sales tricks in the book with the "Surge" issue.
He first went against the will of the people and increased the troops in IRAQ with his SURGE. then says he will draw down by next summer. But the reality is that even if he does reduce them by 30 thousand by next summer, he is still at the origional force after it is all said and done. So the cry from the people to end the war is all on deaf ears. He pulled a basic retail scam on you dummies. He raised the price and (if he does reduce them) puts the item on sale, and you fools buy it hook, line and sinker.
The next time you want to call Bush or his admin stupid, you need to look in the mirror.
Wake up America, Before there is No America to wake up to.
I keep hearing people call Bush a moron, Retarded, Crazy and a host of other names when the finger needs to be pointed at the person you see in the miror.
First, Let's look at the goals that the Bush Admin has attained since his coup in Nov. 2000. He first stoled the elections and there was NO public outcry. Just the news media capitalizing on the buzz! Notice i said "buzz"?
Then there was this think tank that is PNAC. Do a search on PNAC and read their site in full. What you read there may suprise you.
It is basicaly the playbook for the Bush Admin. And it has been followed to the T. Over 80% of the Pnac documents "whish list" has been completed. With subjects like a transformation with a catalyst described as "A New Pearl Harbor" 9-11 opened the doors to their wish list.
Military spending has been raised to the exact figure the documents suggested. We have taken on a pre-emptive position with foreign policy as stated in the documents. Securing Middle east natural resources and as stated in the documents "especialy persian gulf oil" as written.
Dick Cheney has openly favored for years that the president have more power than the Constitution allows.
They have implimented torture against American and International laws. Lied Repeatedly to the people of America and the world and have not had to answer for it by blocking the justice system with politics. Using record signing statements is one of the staples of this admin.
Warrantless wiretaps, Illegal searches of the American People. Power grabs by presidential directives where he can can now take control of state guard units without approval of the States Govenor.
Prior to 9-11 the "Patriot Act?" was already a completed draft. Enacting laws and presidential directives that gives him almost unlimited powers that include suspending the constitution of the U.S. if he see's fit to do so under any "emergency" that he himself declares.
He has lied and twisted information to justify an illegal invasion into a country that they claimed had WMD's, when in fact they knew the whole time that there were no WMD's.
This list could go on and on. with over 1000 signing statements. A statement that the Constitution is a "God Damned peice of paper" this president and his admin has broken about every law a President could break, and got caught, and still blocks justice openly.
And The People of America have the Nerve to call him Stupid?
The fact of the matter is that the People of America are the Morons, Retarded, Crazy and a host of other names that they so love to call this President.
He keeps dishing it out and "We The Sheeple" keep taking it. Just today he squashed an Anti War protest on the hill and arrested over 190 protesters who were practising their Rights as an American. Again today. He breaks the Laws and denies us the rights protected by the Constitution of the United States of America.
70 years ago we were told "We have nothing to fear but fear itself". And now this Admin tells us to Fear everything, and give up your liberty for Freedom.
You Retards, Liberty is Freedom. Thinking patterns have changed and now we are taught to rely on a government that is just as corrupt as Hitler himself.
you people are so dumbed down that you think you have no way to stop the insanity, but in fact you, as an American do have the power of the Purse. Not Congress.
I know that you say that they can spend as they please, and if we do not go along, they will get support from the Big Corp American Giants. Well, I have news for you, A 3 day boycott of the major corperations will shut them up and make them listen and do. If 3 days do not work, A week will, and then if it takes more, so be it.
If they have no income, they can't buy the politicians anymore. "We the People" are still in power(for now).
They are collapsing our econemy, lowering wages and consilidating wealth. this is designed to destroy the middle class. And they do want to destroy the middle class. The reason they want this is because if you are poor, you can not fight back, you do not have the resources to do so.
If you look at 3rd world countries, they are controlled by governments and can not even afford fight back. and you can be assured that if you are poor, it is a struggle just to eat, and a sickly popluation has never been able to regain controll of "THEIR" government.
American are still somewhat comfortable and will sit on their lazy asses until they feel the pain. But by the time the pain spreads to the masses of the population, it will be too late, Just as it has happened throughout history.
Are you aware that the Patriot Act is being used to imprision U.S. Citizens right now? There are Americans that are not terrorist serving extended sentances right now from the Patriot Act.
I am going to prove a point about the lazy Population right here. when was the last time you were upset, disturbed, worried or angry about what this admin has done?
What did you do about it? Not one phone call to a senator or congress man. Not one letter, nothing! You just sit on your fat asses and point fingers at Democrats or Republicans when Neither Party gives a shit about you.
you just recently fell for one of the oldest sales tricks in the book with the "Surge" issue.
He first went against the will of the people and increased the troops in IRAQ with his SURGE. then says he will draw down by next summer. But the reality is that even if he does reduce them by 30 thousand by next summer, he is still at the origional force after it is all said and done. So the cry from the people to end the war is all on deaf ears. He pulled a basic retail scam on you dummies. He raised the price and (if he does reduce them) puts the item on sale, and you fools buy it hook, line and sinker.
The next time you want to call Bush or his admin stupid, you need to look in the mirror.
Wake up America, Before there is No America to wake up to.
Friday, September 14, 2007
Are Americans At Risk Of Another Terrorist Attack On Sept 14th 2007?
Below is an Email that was sent by a concerned citizen of the U.S.A. to a coincidence theorist.
She sent me a copy of the email. This was the Subject line: an e-mail I sent to a coincidence theorist.
What I think that everyone should understand, no matter what they may believe about conspiracy theories concerning the government, is that government conspiracies are certainly nothing new.
Who burned down Rome and blamed it on the Christians, banking on the people believing him simply because he was ruler? Nero.
Who had all of the Knights Templar burned at the stake as heretics because he said they were? King Philip IV of France.
Who infected black men with syphilis for 40 years in Alabama in the United States to use them as guinea pigs..? The United States Government.
Who was it that concocted Operation: Northwoods to commit false acts of terrorism and launch a complicated campaign to blame it on Cuba to provide a pretext for military intervention there..? The Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff under JFK.
Conspiracies concerning the government and those who wish to do away with it have existed for millennia…
My point is that because conspiracies have been around ever since government was first formed on this planet, you should consider them viable options. There have always been greedy men who want power and money in the government and the fact that a man who was very willing to commit false acts of terrorism against the United States and blame it on another country made it to the office of the Joint Chiefs of Staff should bother you very, very much. In earlier times, conspiracies were much easier for high officials (church and government) to carry out, simply because during those times, the word of one such official is all that was needed. King Philip IV did not have to offer proof that the Templars were heretics; all he had to do was say that it was true and it was so. These days, people expect more and much more at that, but simply because people expect more proof that an event is a certain person's fault or took place in a certain way, does not mean that the conspiracy theory is not true. A conspiracy theory is only a conspiracy theory until there is sufficient evidence to prove that it is plausible or even probable.
Do I believe that the major media organizations have been bought out? Yes, I do. Jamie McEntire, the Pentagon correspondent on 9/11, said that day that there was no visible sign of a plane having crashed anywhere NEAR the Pentagon and yet, sometime within the past year or two, he has released a video stating that he never said any such thing and that "I was there" and "I took pictures", even though there is video proof showing that he did say that.
What I am saying is that government conspiracies have not "gone away" with the times, they have only gotten more sophisticated and complicated. After all, what are the people in the CIA and FBI and other covert organizations trained to do..? They are trained to follow orders and not ask too many questions, no matter what. That is what they test for during training. If you don't follow orders, you wash out. If you ask too many questions, you wash out. Period. They don't want people who think, they want people who will "do their jobs". Ask any policemen or policewomen that you know what they are going to do when martial law is implemented and they know it's illegal or wrong. I guarantee you that 8 out of 10 policemen and women will answer you: "I'll do my job."
As a Christian, Wayne, the very idea of martial law should scare you as it scares me. The fact that the government is training for it as we speak bothers me greatly, I don't care how much they say the "terrorists" are after us. A national emergency or "catastrophic emergency" is basically anything the President says it is.
Do you know that a subsidiary of Halliburton has been contracted to build new "detention centers" (concentration camps??) in the event of a "national emergency"? They are supposedly going to be used for an "unexpected influx of illegal immigrants", but with the history of "detention centers" in the United States and in Europe, the very idea of "detention centers" being built for ANY reason should be worrisome. Hitler originally called them "detention centers", I do believe. Say that gas prices go through the roof and riots begin? Do they get used to control those people? Will they start gathering up "terrorists", like they did during WWII with the Japanese and Germans in the U.S.? The fact that it was unconstitutional at the time didn't seem to stop them from doing it. Will they use the "detention centers" for those of middle eastern descent? I doubt they will be used for an "unexpected influx of illegal immigrants."
I stay on top of these matters concerning the government because they are important and because I do not trust anything that I hear or see on main stream news anymore. The fact that a Presidential directive concerning a "continuity of government" plan was signed this past May without a word of press coverage bothers me. If it is so important, why keep it under wraps? A passage of particular concern is this:
""Catastrophic Emergency" means any incident, regardless of location, that results in extraordinary levels of mass casualties, damage, or disruption severely affecting the U.S. population, infrastructure, environment, economy, or government functions;"
This means that it does not have to be an attack on the United States by another foreign power or even a natural disaster that causes a mass number of casualties. It can be basically anything the President says it is. What if the Chinese government calls in the debt that the United States owes it? Does that count? After "population, infrastructure, environment, economy, or government functions", what is left that can be disrupted?
Second of all, this directive states that the government gains control of the "private sector". That seems a little overreaching, to me. My main issue with this presidential directive is the fact that it was not publicized that he has signed such a directive as this.
Thirdly, it states that the President will "coordinate" all three branches of government. There are enough loopholes in this directive for an elephant to jump through. It is constructed in some pretty broad language and not publicized, at that. Worrisome.
If you wish to read the entire document yourself, it is
NATIONAL SECURITY PRESIDENTIAL DIRECTIVE/NSPD 51
HOMELAND SECURITY PRESIDENTIAL DIRECTIVE/HSPD-20
And you can find it on http://www.whitehouse.gov
The Continuity of Operations plan was put into effect for the first time immediately following the September 11th attacks on the United States. This plan has existed since the cold war era and was criticized due to the fears of people that unelected officials would gain office and use their sweeping emergency powers to create a dictatorship. Think of Egypt: it has been under martial law for many, many years. The only thing necessary for this to happen is that the "state of emergency" be renewed. The martial law legislation in Egypt has been renewed by Parliament in Egypt ever since 1967. It would be folly to assume that the same could not happen in the United States.
"Their implementation involves a rotating staff of 75 to 150 senior officials and other government workers from every Cabinet department and other parts of the executive branch in two secure bunkers on the East Coast. Friends, family and co-workers can only reach them through a toll-free number and personal extensions.
The Bush Administration officially admitted the implementation of the plan on March 1, 2002.[1][2] Key congressional leaders say they didn't know this government-in-waiting had been established.[3][4]"
ADDITIONALLY, "Public Law 109-364, or the " John Warner Defense Authorization Act of 2007" (H.R.5122), was signed by President Bush on October 17, 2006, and allows the President to declare a "public emergency" and station troops anywhere in America and take control of state-based National Guard units without the consent of the governor or local authorities."
So, that, in conjunction with his new presidential directive, basically does completely away with state, local, territorial, and tribal power simply because he decides to declare a "public emergency". If nothing else makes you afraid, that certainly should.
To underestimate the possibility of government conspiracies to keep the public under control and dismiss them simply because they are viewed as "extreme" or "bizarre" by the media is to underestimate the amount of evil in the world, Wayne… and that is most certainly something that I do not do. Anyone who seriously questions the government's true role in 9/11 publicly and declares it a conspiracy has been harassed and called all kinds of names by the mainstream media, especially Fox News. Scientists and college professors have had their work discredited and have been threatened with being fired, if they have not indeed been fired already. People are being harassed for even DARING to publicly question the official story. Think of the campaign to disprove 9/11 conspiracy theories. Why are they paying so much attention to debunking this theory if there is nothing to it? Was such a campaign launched to disprove the JFK conspiracy or the belief that the government had Martin Luther King Jr. killed, as important as those men were to society..? Not to my knowledge.
Do you know that recently a cop was caught on video by the person he pulled over saying that he could make up any reason he wanted to send the kid to jail? "You wanna try me? You think you're having a bad night, I will RUIN your (**&^% night. Do you want to go to jail for some ^%$#@ reason I come up with?" These people EXIST! At the highest and lowest levels of government, they exist. Do you know that that cop has only been SUSPENDED without pay instead of outright FIRED??
Do you know that Colonel Oliver North was questioned in front of members of Congress and he was asked by a congressman from Texas whether he was involved with developing a plan by FEMA to suspend the United States Constitution during a national emergency? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ug0IL7k3elQ&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Edailykos%2Ecom%2Fstoryonly%2F2007%2F5%2F20%2F31456%2F0376 The exchange you should pay attention to happens at 0:50. The Chairman stops him dead from asking that question. What are they hiding??
All this aside, martial law and any "state of emergency" should be something that any Christian person who knows anything about the end of days is afraid of. It does say in the Bible that in the end of days, people will be so delusional as to believe a lie.
The fact that the government is also training clergymen and women since at least last year to convince people to go quietly into martial law by citing Romans 13 is also disquieting. The government calling on the church to keep control of people is bothersome at the very least. I tell you this: if martial law is enacted, I will not be listening to any clergy. I'll likely head for the hills and you won't be able to reach me anymore. Imagine them going door to door and cataloging people, running names through the computer and if your name pops up, you get to take a ride. "I don't know what all you tinfoil-hat wearing conspiracy theorists are so worried about. Sheez. Just get into the boxcar, there will be warm meals and a shower at the end of the ride..." At least, that's what they told the Jews in Nazi Germany. Speaking of that, you do know that George W. Bush is descended from Nazi sympathizers, right..? His grandfather was found to be doing business with Nazi Germany during WWII and had a number of assets seized and a BBC documentary also claims that he was connected to the Business Plot to assassinate FDR and overthrow the United States government. The Business Plot was primarily funded by U.S. Steel, General Motors, Chase National Bank, the American Liberty League, and Goodyear Tire and Rubber Company.
You don't have to believe any of this, Wayne, but… the legislation that's been passed ever since 9/11 in conjunction with that already on the books is worrisome. Just because this is the United States… you shouldn't convince yourself that "they can't do that". :-/ And with the clergy backing martial law now, there wouldn't be much to stop them from doing just that.
Tiffany
She sent me a copy of the email. This was the Subject line: an e-mail I sent to a coincidence theorist.
What I think that everyone should understand, no matter what they may believe about conspiracy theories concerning the government, is that government conspiracies are certainly nothing new.
Who burned down Rome and blamed it on the Christians, banking on the people believing him simply because he was ruler? Nero.
Who had all of the Knights Templar burned at the stake as heretics because he said they were? King Philip IV of France.
Who infected black men with syphilis for 40 years in Alabama in the United States to use them as guinea pigs..? The United States Government.
Who was it that concocted Operation: Northwoods to commit false acts of terrorism and launch a complicated campaign to blame it on Cuba to provide a pretext for military intervention there..? The Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff under JFK.
Conspiracies concerning the government and those who wish to do away with it have existed for millennia…
My point is that because conspiracies have been around ever since government was first formed on this planet, you should consider them viable options. There have always been greedy men who want power and money in the government and the fact that a man who was very willing to commit false acts of terrorism against the United States and blame it on another country made it to the office of the Joint Chiefs of Staff should bother you very, very much. In earlier times, conspiracies were much easier for high officials (church and government) to carry out, simply because during those times, the word of one such official is all that was needed. King Philip IV did not have to offer proof that the Templars were heretics; all he had to do was say that it was true and it was so. These days, people expect more and much more at that, but simply because people expect more proof that an event is a certain person's fault or took place in a certain way, does not mean that the conspiracy theory is not true. A conspiracy theory is only a conspiracy theory until there is sufficient evidence to prove that it is plausible or even probable.
Do I believe that the major media organizations have been bought out? Yes, I do. Jamie McEntire, the Pentagon correspondent on 9/11, said that day that there was no visible sign of a plane having crashed anywhere NEAR the Pentagon and yet, sometime within the past year or two, he has released a video stating that he never said any such thing and that "I was there" and "I took pictures", even though there is video proof showing that he did say that.
What I am saying is that government conspiracies have not "gone away" with the times, they have only gotten more sophisticated and complicated. After all, what are the people in the CIA and FBI and other covert organizations trained to do..? They are trained to follow orders and not ask too many questions, no matter what. That is what they test for during training. If you don't follow orders, you wash out. If you ask too many questions, you wash out. Period. They don't want people who think, they want people who will "do their jobs". Ask any policemen or policewomen that you know what they are going to do when martial law is implemented and they know it's illegal or wrong. I guarantee you that 8 out of 10 policemen and women will answer you: "I'll do my job."
As a Christian, Wayne, the very idea of martial law should scare you as it scares me. The fact that the government is training for it as we speak bothers me greatly, I don't care how much they say the "terrorists" are after us. A national emergency or "catastrophic emergency" is basically anything the President says it is.
Do you know that a subsidiary of Halliburton has been contracted to build new "detention centers" (concentration camps??) in the event of a "national emergency"? They are supposedly going to be used for an "unexpected influx of illegal immigrants", but with the history of "detention centers" in the United States and in Europe, the very idea of "detention centers" being built for ANY reason should be worrisome. Hitler originally called them "detention centers", I do believe. Say that gas prices go through the roof and riots begin? Do they get used to control those people? Will they start gathering up "terrorists", like they did during WWII with the Japanese and Germans in the U.S.? The fact that it was unconstitutional at the time didn't seem to stop them from doing it. Will they use the "detention centers" for those of middle eastern descent? I doubt they will be used for an "unexpected influx of illegal immigrants."
I stay on top of these matters concerning the government because they are important and because I do not trust anything that I hear or see on main stream news anymore. The fact that a Presidential directive concerning a "continuity of government" plan was signed this past May without a word of press coverage bothers me. If it is so important, why keep it under wraps? A passage of particular concern is this:
""Catastrophic Emergency" means any incident, regardless of location, that results in extraordinary levels of mass casualties, damage, or disruption severely affecting the U.S. population, infrastructure, environment, economy, or government functions;"
This means that it does not have to be an attack on the United States by another foreign power or even a natural disaster that causes a mass number of casualties. It can be basically anything the President says it is. What if the Chinese government calls in the debt that the United States owes it? Does that count? After "population, infrastructure, environment, economy, or government functions", what is left that can be disrupted?
Second of all, this directive states that the government gains control of the "private sector". That seems a little overreaching, to me. My main issue with this presidential directive is the fact that it was not publicized that he has signed such a directive as this.
Thirdly, it states that the President will "coordinate" all three branches of government. There are enough loopholes in this directive for an elephant to jump through. It is constructed in some pretty broad language and not publicized, at that. Worrisome.
If you wish to read the entire document yourself, it is
NATIONAL SECURITY PRESIDENTIAL DIRECTIVE/NSPD 51
HOMELAND SECURITY PRESIDENTIAL DIRECTIVE/HSPD-20
And you can find it on http://www.whitehouse.gov
The Continuity of Operations plan was put into effect for the first time immediately following the September 11th attacks on the United States. This plan has existed since the cold war era and was criticized due to the fears of people that unelected officials would gain office and use their sweeping emergency powers to create a dictatorship. Think of Egypt: it has been under martial law for many, many years. The only thing necessary for this to happen is that the "state of emergency" be renewed. The martial law legislation in Egypt has been renewed by Parliament in Egypt ever since 1967. It would be folly to assume that the same could not happen in the United States.
"Their implementation involves a rotating staff of 75 to 150 senior officials and other government workers from every Cabinet department and other parts of the executive branch in two secure bunkers on the East Coast. Friends, family and co-workers can only reach them through a toll-free number and personal extensions.
The Bush Administration officially admitted the implementation of the plan on March 1, 2002.[1][2] Key congressional leaders say they didn't know this government-in-waiting had been established.[3][4]"
ADDITIONALLY, "Public Law 109-364, or the " John Warner Defense Authorization Act of 2007" (H.R.5122), was signed by President Bush on October 17, 2006, and allows the President to declare a "public emergency" and station troops anywhere in America and take control of state-based National Guard units without the consent of the governor or local authorities."
So, that, in conjunction with his new presidential directive, basically does completely away with state, local, territorial, and tribal power simply because he decides to declare a "public emergency". If nothing else makes you afraid, that certainly should.
To underestimate the possibility of government conspiracies to keep the public under control and dismiss them simply because they are viewed as "extreme" or "bizarre" by the media is to underestimate the amount of evil in the world, Wayne… and that is most certainly something that I do not do. Anyone who seriously questions the government's true role in 9/11 publicly and declares it a conspiracy has been harassed and called all kinds of names by the mainstream media, especially Fox News. Scientists and college professors have had their work discredited and have been threatened with being fired, if they have not indeed been fired already. People are being harassed for even DARING to publicly question the official story. Think of the campaign to disprove 9/11 conspiracy theories. Why are they paying so much attention to debunking this theory if there is nothing to it? Was such a campaign launched to disprove the JFK conspiracy or the belief that the government had Martin Luther King Jr. killed, as important as those men were to society..? Not to my knowledge.
Do you know that recently a cop was caught on video by the person he pulled over saying that he could make up any reason he wanted to send the kid to jail? "You wanna try me? You think you're having a bad night, I will RUIN your (**&^% night. Do you want to go to jail for some ^%$#@ reason I come up with?" These people EXIST! At the highest and lowest levels of government, they exist. Do you know that that cop has only been SUSPENDED without pay instead of outright FIRED??
Do you know that Colonel Oliver North was questioned in front of members of Congress and he was asked by a congressman from Texas whether he was involved with developing a plan by FEMA to suspend the United States Constitution during a national emergency? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ug0IL7k3elQ&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Edailykos%2Ecom%2Fstoryonly%2F2007%2F5%2F20%2F31456%2F0376 The exchange you should pay attention to happens at 0:50. The Chairman stops him dead from asking that question. What are they hiding??
All this aside, martial law and any "state of emergency" should be something that any Christian person who knows anything about the end of days is afraid of. It does say in the Bible that in the end of days, people will be so delusional as to believe a lie.
The fact that the government is also training clergymen and women since at least last year to convince people to go quietly into martial law by citing Romans 13 is also disquieting. The government calling on the church to keep control of people is bothersome at the very least. I tell you this: if martial law is enacted, I will not be listening to any clergy. I'll likely head for the hills and you won't be able to reach me anymore. Imagine them going door to door and cataloging people, running names through the computer and if your name pops up, you get to take a ride. "I don't know what all you tinfoil-hat wearing conspiracy theorists are so worried about. Sheez. Just get into the boxcar, there will be warm meals and a shower at the end of the ride..." At least, that's what they told the Jews in Nazi Germany. Speaking of that, you do know that George W. Bush is descended from Nazi sympathizers, right..? His grandfather was found to be doing business with Nazi Germany during WWII and had a number of assets seized and a BBC documentary also claims that he was connected to the Business Plot to assassinate FDR and overthrow the United States government. The Business Plot was primarily funded by U.S. Steel, General Motors, Chase National Bank, the American Liberty League, and Goodyear Tire and Rubber Company.
You don't have to believe any of this, Wayne, but… the legislation that's been passed ever since 9/11 in conjunction with that already on the books is worrisome. Just because this is the United States… you shouldn't convince yourself that "they can't do that". :-/ And with the clergy backing martial law now, there wouldn't be much to stop them from doing just that.
Tiffany
Wednesday, September 12, 2007
Nukes Missing? Martial Law Declared Sept 15th, U.S. Military aircraft standown on the 14th? 4.5 Billion in Put Options On Stock Market! End Of America
The first stories and latter stories from U.S. Government officials are not adding up and may be cause for great alarm. Are we the people being set up for a nuke attack on the U.S.?
Was it 5 or 6 nukes?
On August 30th, 2007 the U.S. Air Force “mistakenly” transported some live nuclear missles on the wing pods of a B-52 bomber enroute from Minot, ND to Barksdale AFB in Louisiana. This act was in violation of every possible protocol for transporting nukes. More importantly, early counts of the number of missiles transported don’t mesh with later reports. Was it 5 nukes, or 6?
Here is an excerpt from a news story about a week ago.
Early news reports spoke of five nuclear warheads loaded onto the bomber. Apparently, this information was provided from Barksdale.
That number was later updated to six weapons missing from Minot, apparently based on anonymous tips provided to Military Times by people at Minot. This information has also been forgotten.
Six nuclear weapons disappeared from Minot AFB in North Dakota.
Five nuclear weapons were discovered at Barksdale AFB in Louisiana.
Which leads to my chilling conclusion:
Someone, operating under a special chain of command within the United States Air Force, just stole a nuclear weapon.
The origional report was 6 nukes! Click here to see the origional reports that were suddenly changed to 5 nukes the following day in the U.S. Media
Now, I had found a story i posted earlier yesterday about a U.S. Military aircraft Standown starting sept 14th. No military aircraft are allowed to fly on the 14th of this september. What is the real reason behind this?
Have you ever heard of an Electro Magnetic Pulse? It is caused by Nukes going off and disables instruments in aircraft. Seems like a good reason for a stand down. To protect their aircraft!
I believe that We will no longer be a free country after the 14th of this september, just 2 days from now unless we get the word out!
Then on the 15th we go into a martial law "war game" with bush declared dictator of the U.S.
This smells of the smae tatic used prior to 9-11.
On 9-11 they were using war games to simulate a terrorist attack using highjacked jet aircraft.
The london bombing on 7-7 were also practising war games with a train bombing exercise at the same exact time!
Now, the new Vigilant Shield 08 will simulate a nuke attack on an undisclosed U.S area with all of the same tatics, with a missing Nuke, An air command standown and a declaration of Martial law already in place!
There was also a report of massive "PUT" options on the stack market betting over 1 Billion dollars that the U.S. Stock Market would fall by 30 to 50% before sept 21 2007! Seems someone knows something! These PUT Options are being refered to as the Bin Ladin Trades!
We the people need to get the word out FAST. This is the only way to stop this insanity!
Book mark this site and send the link to friends and news media, Our country may depend on it!
Was it 5 or 6 nukes?
On August 30th, 2007 the U.S. Air Force “mistakenly” transported some live nuclear missles on the wing pods of a B-52 bomber enroute from Minot, ND to Barksdale AFB in Louisiana. This act was in violation of every possible protocol for transporting nukes. More importantly, early counts of the number of missiles transported don’t mesh with later reports. Was it 5 nukes, or 6?
Here is an excerpt from a news story about a week ago.
Early news reports spoke of five nuclear warheads loaded onto the bomber. Apparently, this information was provided from Barksdale.
That number was later updated to six weapons missing from Minot, apparently based on anonymous tips provided to Military Times by people at Minot. This information has also been forgotten.
Six nuclear weapons disappeared from Minot AFB in North Dakota.
Five nuclear weapons were discovered at Barksdale AFB in Louisiana.
Which leads to my chilling conclusion:
Someone, operating under a special chain of command within the United States Air Force, just stole a nuclear weapon.
The origional report was 6 nukes! Click here to see the origional reports that were suddenly changed to 5 nukes the following day in the U.S. Media
Now, I had found a story i posted earlier yesterday about a U.S. Military aircraft Standown starting sept 14th. No military aircraft are allowed to fly on the 14th of this september. What is the real reason behind this?
Have you ever heard of an Electro Magnetic Pulse? It is caused by Nukes going off and disables instruments in aircraft. Seems like a good reason for a stand down. To protect their aircraft!
I believe that We will no longer be a free country after the 14th of this september, just 2 days from now unless we get the word out!
Then on the 15th we go into a martial law "war game" with bush declared dictator of the U.S.
This smells of the smae tatic used prior to 9-11.
On 9-11 they were using war games to simulate a terrorist attack using highjacked jet aircraft.
The london bombing on 7-7 were also practising war games with a train bombing exercise at the same exact time!
Now, the new Vigilant Shield 08 will simulate a nuke attack on an undisclosed U.S area with all of the same tatics, with a missing Nuke, An air command standown and a declaration of Martial law already in place!
There was also a report of massive "PUT" options on the stack market betting over 1 Billion dollars that the U.S. Stock Market would fall by 30 to 50% before sept 21 2007! Seems someone knows something! These PUT Options are being refered to as the Bin Ladin Trades!
We the people need to get the word out FAST. This is the only way to stop this insanity!
Book mark this site and send the link to friends and news media, Our country may depend on it!
5 day Martial Law Test Run Planned By U.S. Government starting Sept 15th - sept 20th
An Air Force stand DOWN is scheduled for 9/14 in response to nuclear warheads "mistakenly" flown over US airspace.
Langley planes to be grounded
The Air Force has ordered a stand-down for all jet fighters and bombers for Sept. 14.
BY STEPHANIE HEINATZ | 247-7821
September 7, 2007
LANGLEY AIR FORCE BASE - Planes at Langley Air Force Base will be grounded Sept. 14 in response to an incident last week when a B-52 bomber was mistakenly armed with six nuclear warheads and flown for three hours across several states.
The stand-down was ordered by Air Combat Command and includes all jet fighters and bombers in the Air Force. The command, headquartered at Langley, oversees all of the service's fighters and bombers.
Planes in Iraq and Afghanistan and planes participating in air shows this weekend are not affected by the stand-down.
While airmen haven't been given specific instructions for the stand-down, they've been ordered to take the non-flying time to review safety procedures and protocol, an Air Combat Command spokesman said.
To mistakenly load nuclear weapons on a bomber, military officials told the Associated Press, safety protocols likely would have been ignored.
On Aug. 30, a B-52 with six nuclear-tipped cruise missiles flew from Minot Air Force Base, N.D., to Barksdale Air Force Base, La., a military official told The Associated Press.
The missiles, which are being decommissioned, were mounted onto pylons on the bomber's wings.
It is unclear why the nuclear warheads had not been removed beforehand.
The plane's crew, according to news reports, did not know they were carrying nuclear weapons.
The weapons are designed with safety features that ensure the warheads don't detonate accidentally or upon impact during a crash.
Arming the weapons requires stringent protocols and authentication codes, according to the AP.
The munitions squadron commander was relieved of duty, and crews involved with the load have been temporarily decertified for handling munitions, an official told the AP.
Citing Defense Department policy forbidding the release of any information about nuclear weapons, Pentagon officials have not confirmed that nuclear weapons were involved in the incident.
However, Defense Secretary Robert Gates and President Bush were immediately notified of the incident, a Pentagon spokesman said.
Gates has asked to be briefed daily on the Air Force investigation, which is being led by Air Force Maj. Gen. Douglas Raaberg, director of Air and Space Operations for Air Combat Command at Langley.
Raaberg was not available for comment Thursday.
His full report is expected to be delivered to Gates as early as next week.
http://www.dailypress.com/news/local/hampton/dp-18333sy0sep07,0,3949434.story
ACC orders command-wide stand-down on Sept. 14
By Bruce Rolfsen - Staff writer
Posted : Friday Sep 7, 2007 19:12:24 EDT
On Sept. 14, flight lines will be very quiet at Air Combat Command bases.
The entire command — about 100,000 active-duty airmen — is standing down training flights and many other operations as part of a command-wide safety day.
Command boss Gen. Ronald Keys ordered the Sept. 14 safety stand-down in the wake of the Aug. 30 nuclear incident at Minot Air Force Base, N.D., in which six cruise missiles armed with nuclear warheads were loaded onto a B-52H and then flown to Barksdale Air Force Base, La., without anyone on the ground or bomber realizing the nuclear weapons were on the plane. It was not until the B-52H was parked at Barksdale that ground crews discovered the cruise missiles were carrying real warheads.
Command spokesman Maj. Tom Crosson said wing commanders would determine how their units review operations and safety procedures and checklists.
Just how serious Keys takes the lapse of regulations at Minot is reflected in the fact that the safety stand-down is the first command-wide safety day in recent memory. In the past, the command has singled out specific types of aircraft for safety days and in 1997 the Department of Defense held a department-wide safety review day.
http://www.airforcetimes.com/news/2007/09/airforce_aircombatcommand_standdown_070807/
http://www.opednews.com/articles/2/genera_tim_rile_070906_nuclear_insanity_ord.htm
http://www.opednews.com/articles/genera_tim_rile_070906_nuclear_insanity_ord.htm
http://www.blacklistednews.com/view.asp?ID=4185
NORTHCOM Plans 5 Day Martial Law Exercise
Published on Wednesday, September 05, 2007.
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By Lee Rogers - Intel Strike Contributing Writer
The United States Northern Command (USNORTHCOM) has just announced plans for an anti-terrorism exercise called Vigilant Shield 08. The exercise which is slated to run from October 15th to October 20th is described as a way to prepare, prevent and respond to any number of national crises. The exercise is simply a test case scenario for the implementation of martial law. Although the description of the exercise is disturbing, USNORTHCOM also announced that they are more prepared for a natural disaster and a terrorist attack after they used their response to Hurricane Katrina as a test laboratory. During Hurricane Katrina, authorities violated the constitutional rights of citizens by stealing people’s firearms and even relocating people against their will. These announcements are incredibly disturbing on a number of levels as the nature of Vigilant Shield 08 and the admission that Hurricane Katrina was used as a test laboratory shows that the government is actively preparing the military and government institutions for martial law.
Below is the full press release from USNORTHCOM describing Vigilant Shield 08. Also check out the Vigilant Shield 08 fact sheet by clicking here.
North American Aerospace Defense Command and U.S. Northern Command along with U.S. Pacific Command, the Department of Homeland Security as well as local, state and other federal responders will exercise their response abilities against a variety of potential threats during Exercise Vigilant Shield ‘08, a Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff-designated, North American Aerospace Defense Command (NORAD) and U.S. Northern Command (USNORTHCOM)-sponsored, and U.S. Joint Forces Command-supported Department of Defense exercise for homeland defense and defense support of civil authorities missions.
VS-08 will be conducted concurrent with Top Officials 4 (TOPOFF 4), the nation’s premier exercise of terrorism preparedness sponsored by the Department of Homeland Security, and several other linked exercises as part of the National Level Exercise 1-08. These linked exercises will take place Ocober 15-20 and are being conducted throughout the United States and in conjunction with several partner nations including Australia, Canada, and the United Kingdom, as well as the Territory of Guam.
VS-08 and National Level Exercise 1-08 will provide local, state, tribal, interagency, Department of Defense, and non-governmental organizations and agencies involved in homeland security and homeland defense the opportunity to participate in a full range of exercise scenarios that will better prepare participants to prevent and respond to national crises. The participating organizations will conduct a multi-layered, civilian-led response to a national crisis.
USNORTHCOM’s primary exercise venues for VS-08 include locations in Oregon, Arizona and a cooperative venue with USPACOM in the Territory of Guam. NORAD’s aerospace detection and defense events will take place across all the exercise venues, to exercise the ability to mobilize resources for aerospace defense, aerospace control, maritime warning, and coordination of air operations in a disaster area.
This exercise is clearly a way to prepare government to respond to a national crisis with martial law. This announcement also follows a number of other news stories that indicate the government is becoming more actively prepared for the implementation of martial law.
These stories include the following:
George W. Bush issuing a presidential directive declaring that he is a dictator during the case of a national emergency be it a natural disaster, a terror attack or any number of crises.
KSLA reporting that members of clergy will be used to convince people to submit to government in the case of declare martial law. See the video below.
The U.S. Department of Treasury conducting a disaster drill to prepare for a potential economic crisis.
In addition to the announcement of Vigilant Shield 08, USNORTHCOM also announced that they have been using the lessons learned from Hurricane Katrina to better respond to crises. The response to Hurricane Katrina was essentially used as a test laboratory to implement martial law in a city. People were forced to relocate against their will and authorities stole people’s firearms in the name of safety despite these actions being entirely unconstitutional.
From USNORTHCOM:
“Hurricane Katrina’s impact on this country was unprecedented. There are still many of our fellow Americans whose lives still haven’t returned to normal,” said Gen. Gene Renuart, commander of North American Aerospace Defense Command and USNORTHCOM. “It will take many years for the Gulf Coast to fully recover.
“The United States military was deeply involved in the response to the hurricane and subsequent flooding,” Renuart said. “While our Soldiers, Sailors, Airmen, and Marines helped thousands of people, we also learned many lessons.”
According to Renuart, USNORTHCOM has been using the lessons learned from Katrina to modify plans to respond to both natural disasters and potential terrorist actions.
Northern Command also admits in the same article that they have pre-scripted mission assignments coordinated with FEMA to implement martial law under the pretext of disaster response.
From USNORTHCOM:
USNORTHCOM is ready to help federal, state and local officials to be prepared for a major hurricane and to be successful at conducting response operations, if necessary and requested by the primary responding agency. Some of the ways these objectives are being achieved are:
Through State Engagement programs, USNORTHCOM provides planning support to help states prepare for emergencies.
USNORTHCOM and its subordinates, as well as local, state and federal partners conduct major disaster exercises to refine processes and apply lessons learned.
Working with FEMA, USNORTHCOM has prepared pre-scripted mission assignments to accelerate the disaster response process.
USNORTHCOM conducted a major exercise with the National Guard in May to refine the interface between the National Guard and DoD.
There is no question that Vigilant Shield 08 is either government preparation for the implementation of martial law or a way for criminal elements within the government to distract emergency responders in order to conduct a false flag terror attack as a pretext to actually implement martial law and engage in foreign war. On September 11th, 2001 there were drills run by NORAD including Vigilant Guardian which served as a way to ensure that there was no adequate military response to the hi-jacked planes. A similar scenario unfolding with Vigilant Shield is not out of the question.
Langley planes to be grounded
The Air Force has ordered a stand-down for all jet fighters and bombers for Sept. 14.
BY STEPHANIE HEINATZ | 247-7821
September 7, 2007
LANGLEY AIR FORCE BASE - Planes at Langley Air Force Base will be grounded Sept. 14 in response to an incident last week when a B-52 bomber was mistakenly armed with six nuclear warheads and flown for three hours across several states.
The stand-down was ordered by Air Combat Command and includes all jet fighters and bombers in the Air Force. The command, headquartered at Langley, oversees all of the service's fighters and bombers.
Planes in Iraq and Afghanistan and planes participating in air shows this weekend are not affected by the stand-down.
While airmen haven't been given specific instructions for the stand-down, they've been ordered to take the non-flying time to review safety procedures and protocol, an Air Combat Command spokesman said.
To mistakenly load nuclear weapons on a bomber, military officials told the Associated Press, safety protocols likely would have been ignored.
On Aug. 30, a B-52 with six nuclear-tipped cruise missiles flew from Minot Air Force Base, N.D., to Barksdale Air Force Base, La., a military official told The Associated Press.
The missiles, which are being decommissioned, were mounted onto pylons on the bomber's wings.
It is unclear why the nuclear warheads had not been removed beforehand.
The plane's crew, according to news reports, did not know they were carrying nuclear weapons.
The weapons are designed with safety features that ensure the warheads don't detonate accidentally or upon impact during a crash.
Arming the weapons requires stringent protocols and authentication codes, according to the AP.
The munitions squadron commander was relieved of duty, and crews involved with the load have been temporarily decertified for handling munitions, an official told the AP.
Citing Defense Department policy forbidding the release of any information about nuclear weapons, Pentagon officials have not confirmed that nuclear weapons were involved in the incident.
However, Defense Secretary Robert Gates and President Bush were immediately notified of the incident, a Pentagon spokesman said.
Gates has asked to be briefed daily on the Air Force investigation, which is being led by Air Force Maj. Gen. Douglas Raaberg, director of Air and Space Operations for Air Combat Command at Langley.
Raaberg was not available for comment Thursday.
His full report is expected to be delivered to Gates as early as next week.
http://www.dailypress.com/news/local/hampton/dp-18333sy0sep07,0,3949434.story
ACC orders command-wide stand-down on Sept. 14
By Bruce Rolfsen - Staff writer
Posted : Friday Sep 7, 2007 19:12:24 EDT
On Sept. 14, flight lines will be very quiet at Air Combat Command bases.
The entire command — about 100,000 active-duty airmen — is standing down training flights and many other operations as part of a command-wide safety day.
Command boss Gen. Ronald Keys ordered the Sept. 14 safety stand-down in the wake of the Aug. 30 nuclear incident at Minot Air Force Base, N.D., in which six cruise missiles armed with nuclear warheads were loaded onto a B-52H and then flown to Barksdale Air Force Base, La., without anyone on the ground or bomber realizing the nuclear weapons were on the plane. It was not until the B-52H was parked at Barksdale that ground crews discovered the cruise missiles were carrying real warheads.
Command spokesman Maj. Tom Crosson said wing commanders would determine how their units review operations and safety procedures and checklists.
Just how serious Keys takes the lapse of regulations at Minot is reflected in the fact that the safety stand-down is the first command-wide safety day in recent memory. In the past, the command has singled out specific types of aircraft for safety days and in 1997 the Department of Defense held a department-wide safety review day.
http://www.airforcetimes.com/news/2007/09/airforce_aircombatcommand_standdown_070807/
http://www.opednews.com/articles/2/genera_tim_rile_070906_nuclear_insanity_ord.htm
http://www.opednews.com/articles/genera_tim_rile_070906_nuclear_insanity_ord.htm
http://www.blacklistednews.com/view.asp?ID=4185
NORTHCOM Plans 5 Day Martial Law Exercise
Published on Wednesday, September 05, 2007.
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By Lee Rogers - Intel Strike Contributing Writer
The United States Northern Command (USNORTHCOM) has just announced plans for an anti-terrorism exercise called Vigilant Shield 08. The exercise which is slated to run from October 15th to October 20th is described as a way to prepare, prevent and respond to any number of national crises. The exercise is simply a test case scenario for the implementation of martial law. Although the description of the exercise is disturbing, USNORTHCOM also announced that they are more prepared for a natural disaster and a terrorist attack after they used their response to Hurricane Katrina as a test laboratory. During Hurricane Katrina, authorities violated the constitutional rights of citizens by stealing people’s firearms and even relocating people against their will. These announcements are incredibly disturbing on a number of levels as the nature of Vigilant Shield 08 and the admission that Hurricane Katrina was used as a test laboratory shows that the government is actively preparing the military and government institutions for martial law.
Below is the full press release from USNORTHCOM describing Vigilant Shield 08. Also check out the Vigilant Shield 08 fact sheet by clicking here.
North American Aerospace Defense Command and U.S. Northern Command along with U.S. Pacific Command, the Department of Homeland Security as well as local, state and other federal responders will exercise their response abilities against a variety of potential threats during Exercise Vigilant Shield ‘08, a Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff-designated, North American Aerospace Defense Command (NORAD) and U.S. Northern Command (USNORTHCOM)-sponsored, and U.S. Joint Forces Command-supported Department of Defense exercise for homeland defense and defense support of civil authorities missions.
VS-08 will be conducted concurrent with Top Officials 4 (TOPOFF 4), the nation’s premier exercise of terrorism preparedness sponsored by the Department of Homeland Security, and several other linked exercises as part of the National Level Exercise 1-08. These linked exercises will take place Ocober 15-20 and are being conducted throughout the United States and in conjunction with several partner nations including Australia, Canada, and the United Kingdom, as well as the Territory of Guam.
VS-08 and National Level Exercise 1-08 will provide local, state, tribal, interagency, Department of Defense, and non-governmental organizations and agencies involved in homeland security and homeland defense the opportunity to participate in a full range of exercise scenarios that will better prepare participants to prevent and respond to national crises. The participating organizations will conduct a multi-layered, civilian-led response to a national crisis.
USNORTHCOM’s primary exercise venues for VS-08 include locations in Oregon, Arizona and a cooperative venue with USPACOM in the Territory of Guam. NORAD’s aerospace detection and defense events will take place across all the exercise venues, to exercise the ability to mobilize resources for aerospace defense, aerospace control, maritime warning, and coordination of air operations in a disaster area.
This exercise is clearly a way to prepare government to respond to a national crisis with martial law. This announcement also follows a number of other news stories that indicate the government is becoming more actively prepared for the implementation of martial law.
These stories include the following:
George W. Bush issuing a presidential directive declaring that he is a dictator during the case of a national emergency be it a natural disaster, a terror attack or any number of crises.
KSLA reporting that members of clergy will be used to convince people to submit to government in the case of declare martial law. See the video below.
The U.S. Department of Treasury conducting a disaster drill to prepare for a potential economic crisis.
In addition to the announcement of Vigilant Shield 08, USNORTHCOM also announced that they have been using the lessons learned from Hurricane Katrina to better respond to crises. The response to Hurricane Katrina was essentially used as a test laboratory to implement martial law in a city. People were forced to relocate against their will and authorities stole people’s firearms in the name of safety despite these actions being entirely unconstitutional.
From USNORTHCOM:
“Hurricane Katrina’s impact on this country was unprecedented. There are still many of our fellow Americans whose lives still haven’t returned to normal,” said Gen. Gene Renuart, commander of North American Aerospace Defense Command and USNORTHCOM. “It will take many years for the Gulf Coast to fully recover.
“The United States military was deeply involved in the response to the hurricane and subsequent flooding,” Renuart said. “While our Soldiers, Sailors, Airmen, and Marines helped thousands of people, we also learned many lessons.”
According to Renuart, USNORTHCOM has been using the lessons learned from Katrina to modify plans to respond to both natural disasters and potential terrorist actions.
Northern Command also admits in the same article that they have pre-scripted mission assignments coordinated with FEMA to implement martial law under the pretext of disaster response.
From USNORTHCOM:
USNORTHCOM is ready to help federal, state and local officials to be prepared for a major hurricane and to be successful at conducting response operations, if necessary and requested by the primary responding agency. Some of the ways these objectives are being achieved are:
Through State Engagement programs, USNORTHCOM provides planning support to help states prepare for emergencies.
USNORTHCOM and its subordinates, as well as local, state and federal partners conduct major disaster exercises to refine processes and apply lessons learned.
Working with FEMA, USNORTHCOM has prepared pre-scripted mission assignments to accelerate the disaster response process.
USNORTHCOM conducted a major exercise with the National Guard in May to refine the interface between the National Guard and DoD.
There is no question that Vigilant Shield 08 is either government preparation for the implementation of martial law or a way for criminal elements within the government to distract emergency responders in order to conduct a false flag terror attack as a pretext to actually implement martial law and engage in foreign war. On September 11th, 2001 there were drills run by NORAD including Vigilant Guardian which served as a way to ensure that there was no adequate military response to the hi-jacked planes. A similar scenario unfolding with Vigilant Shield is not out of the question.
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